Any milsurps in .223 ?

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I sure like the look of the SKS . I fired a friends a bit ago and was wondering if anything was made similar to this but in 223 . See , my shoulder is fairly arthritic and the 7.62 packs a bit more recoil than I can enjoy for a long session . To those of you knowledgable , what , if any is available in the 223/5.56 ? In the months I've been here I haven't noticed anything in that calibre in milsurp , but I've heard that many countries have used them .
Thanks all .
 
Probably the most famous .223 Milsurp:

The M16

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Probably a bit hard to get in its original configeration. If recoil is an issue how about the m1 carbine?
 
Nothing in surplus but you always can put a muzzle brake on the SKS and it will be like shooting a 22. If you are thinking about 223/5.56 then there is AR15 restricted or VZ58, XCR, Tavor, AR180B Kel-Tech SU16 etc. avaliable.
 
Forgot to mention it has to be non restricted . The M16 is restricted isn't it ?
@Zdragunov . Will a muzzle break really make that much of a difference ? If so , problem solved . I've never shot anything with a break on it so I'm clueless . Like I said , I really like the SKS , ammo is cheap and available in bulk , and if adding a muzzle break would make the recoil that much less , then I'll go that way .
I have a cz 858 that sits in the gun case as it is 7.62 and will be on the lookout for anyone with one in 5.56 who might want to trade their cz for it .
Thanks a lot for the great info !
Dana
 
M-1 RIFLE is non-restricted, .30-'06.

M-1 CARBINE is Restricted because it has an 18" barrel; it eats .30M1 Carbine ammo. SOME were rebarrelled to 19 inches, making them non-restricted.

M-16 is Prohibited because it is a Full Auto. It is also a .223. The Americans left about 800,0000 of them behind in the '73 pullout from 'Nam. These often show up in places such as Central America so....... if you are well-connected and don't mind Her Majesty paying your board and room for the next 10 years, there is hope.

On the other hand, you can GET INVOLVED POLITICALLY and lobby for full-autos to be re-legalised. Since 1934 (when they started registering the things) there has not been a SINGLE crime of violence committed with a legally-owned full-auto. They are illegal right now because of what MIGHT happen.

Hey, you MIGHT get hit by a falling asteroid, too!
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The brake on the sks makes a noticable difference. Defineatly worth a try. If you already have a CZ why you don't try to put a brake on that? It will be painless, do a little research on it, which brakes are the best. CZ will be your friend after that.:)
 
Yes , that IS a good plan . Might as well try the brake on my cz as , for a few bucks , it really is worth a shot , and I have several hundred rounds of 7.62 just sitting here . Worse case scenario is I don't like it and try to trade it for a mini 14 or other alternative . I looked at an MR1 at cabelas when I bought the cz and it felt goooooood , but the close to $2000 price tag was a bit high for me .
@smellie
Yes , you are correct , getting involved is important and I will do so for whatever issues I feel are important . I feel , at this time it is important to lobby and work towards getting rid of the non restricted and restricted designations first , but that's just me . As a newbie I am just starting to become educated in just how many issues surround the ownership and use of firearms , and that is a fairly mind numbing process . Give me time and I will become more involved though . I feel learning is most important before I dive into any fight .
 
Certainly not .223...A ljunngman in 6.5x55 has almost no recoil. The energy is used up in noise, and brass flinging.

Unless you re-load, it won't be a full day at the range though. Ammo is certainly pricier.
Actually, if you re-load, you can whip up "reduced load" (less recoil) for almost anything.

As Smellie suggested...to get the 'irons you really want, it will start politically.
 
smellie said:
M-1 RIFLE is non-restricted, .30-'06.

M-1 CARBINE is Restricted because it has an 18" barrel; it eats .30M1 Carbine ammo. SOME were rebarrelled to 19 inches, making them non-restricted.

M-16 is Prohibited because it is a Full Auto. It is also a .223. The Americans left about 800,0000 of them behind in the '73 pullout from 'Nam. These often show up in places such as Central America so....... if you are well-connected and don't mind Her Majesty paying your board and room for the next 10 years, there is hope.

On the other hand, you can GET INVOLVED POLITICALLY and lobby for full-autos to be re-legalised. Since 1934 (when they started registering the things) there has not been a SINGLE crime of violence committed with a legally-owned full-auto. They are illegal right now because of what MIGHT happen.

Hey, you MIGHT get hit by a falling asteroid, too!
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Very well put. Couldn't agree more. Get involved politically.
 
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