Any Thoughts on Bedding a Savage 12 VLP DBM

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I wonder if there is any benefit to bedding this rifle.

My Savage 12 VLP DBM in .223 rem shoots pretty good. .285 to .800 moa depending on bullet weight and load.

So far for me the 69 sierra and 68 gr Hornady BTHP shoot best with the 75gr A-maxes and BTHP from Hornady shooting .500-.800 MOA.

If anyone has bedded these some hints and advice would be appreciated.

It will be my one of my first bedding jobs. I have already bought the devcon and plan on looking at bedding my Savage Mark II BTVS 22LR first.

Thanks
 
If I had a stock rifle that was already shooting .285 to .800 moa then I would leave that baby alone!!

but if you still want to mess with it there are several articles on the web and this forum about bedding savage rifles just search it up, I think it might even be stickied on the gunsmithing section
 
This is how I bedded my Savage BTVS:

Bedding BTVS

Here is a good general procedure to follow:

Stress Free Pillar Bedding

I have also bedded my Savage LRPV. Here are the before and after pics.

LRPVStock.jpg

LRPV-AB.jpg


And these were the first three groups I got out of it after bedding:

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Yours is going to be a bit different as the stock is different. One thing I would do different than I did is to take the trigger right off. It is almost impossible to keep the Devcon from getting under the trigger. Makes it hard to remove, and damages the bedding when you do get it out.

Hope that helps some. I would do it, if I were you.
 
redlaker1 said:
If I had a stock rifle that was already shooting .285 to .800 moa then I would leave that baby alone!!

but if you still want to mess with it there are several articles on the web and this forum about bedding savage rifles just search it up, I think it might even be stickied on the gunsmithing section
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I agree with redlaker1

Assuming it is factory barrel and trigger you are not likely to make significant gains by bedding.

However as a gunnut myself that never stopped me from tinkering with my guns. A Savage 12 VLP in 204 Ruger was my first bedding job, done 2 more since then. I simply enjoy any gunsmithing I can do myself; it tightened the groups up of 2 of the guns but third had no effect on.

I would go ahead and do it but don't be terribly disappointed if it doesn't cut your group sizes in half.



Next is a trigger tuned to 6 oz,

then neck turned Norma brass.....

then barrel with custom chamber,



Ahhhhhh precision rigs (AKA money pit)
 
I think you should definetly do it. Its just lazy not to. I know because I have been telling myself for about 4 weeks to bed my BVSS. :D
 
I have the exact same rifle. In fact I have 2. A 308 and a 223. I bed both since one day after torquing the actions screws, the groups had opened and swith place. that means something is binding. This is the only reason I made a stress free bedding on them because with moderate torque on the screws, they were shooting like yours.
 
Whats with all you guys owning the VLPs anyway. :confused:

Unless you want the 7 twist 223 or detachable mag, then everyone knows the BVSS is the better rifle. Cheaper too. :p :wave: :D
 
As far as I am concerned, bedding on a Savage is job number 1. That's the first thing I do when I purchase the rifle new or used. This way you eliminate an important variable that can confound your results.

They are enough other variables in precision shooting to keep me occupied. :)
 
Make sure you put plastecine around the recoil tab. If the epoxy gets into the little keyway it will be nearly impossible to get out. I did my .223 VLP and it turned out good, not to mention it was my first bedding job too. As most guys will say "quit procrastinating and just do it already". Its easier than you think. The way it turns out and how easily it comes out all depends on the prep work.
 
warrenb said:
Whats with all you guys owning the VLPs anyway. :confused:

Unless you want the 7 twist 223 or detachable mag, then everyone knows the BVSS is the better rifle. Cheaper too. :p :wave: :D
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I do want the DBM, that's key. Also mine is in 1 in 9 twist and its doing just fine with some heavier bullets.

If anyone is interested PM me an e-mail address and I'll send a excel spreadsheet that I wrote that allows you to check(calculate) stability based on barrel twist, temp, and pressure for a velocity that you want to drive the bullet at.

Also included is a Density altitude calculator and a graph for helping select bullets that have a higher BC based on design vs BC increases due to the linear relationship of weight and BC. All BC are G7.
 
Hi, I've got a model 12 VLP in 22-250 that I was thinking of glass bedding too. I started to find as much info. as I could on sites like this and there is alot of info. availible.....I FOUND SOMETHING INTERESTING ON THE SAVAGE ARMS SITE....
The article is written by Stan Pate, who is captain of team Savage. Stan is one of the most accomplished long range shooters in the USA with national and international championships to his name. Stan says that he simply doesn't see the need to glass bed a Savage action and infact has lost accuracy by glass bedding. The article is called "How I tune a savage receiver"
I'll try this first (once the weather warms up a bit) before I go the glass bedding route.
Have fun!!!
 
I think team savage use 3 screw actions. I believe the OPs and also your VLP use 2 screw actions. I did not read the article but it likely relates to 3 screw actions?

The latter is a question not a statement.

One particular area that has put me off the 3 screw savage target actions is that there are enough variables in shooting. Adding an additional screw to the action and the described hokus pokus I have heard regarding setting them to their best is just one more variable I do not need.
 
warrenb said:
I think team savage use 3 screw actions. I believe the OPs and also your VLP use 2 screw actions. I did not read the article but it likely relates to 3 screw actions?

The latter is a question not a statement.

One particular area that has put me off the 3 screw savage target actions is that there are enough variables in shooting. Adding an additional screw to the action and the described hokus pokus I have heard regarding setting them to their best is just one more variable I do not need.
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It (the article) covers both the model 10 and Model 12, 2 and 3 screw actions
 
hawk-i said:
Hi, I've got a model 12 VLP in 22-250 that I was thinking of glass bedding too. I started to find as much info. as I could on sites like this and there is alot of info. availible.....I FOUND SOMETHING INTERESTING ON THE SAVAGE ARMS SITE....
The article is written by Stan Pate, who is captain of team Savage. Stan is one of the most accomplished long range shooters in the USA with national and international championships to his name. Stan says that he simply doesn't see the need to glass bed a Savage action and infact has lost accuracy by glass bedding. The article is called "How I tune a savage receiver"
I'll try this first (once the weather warms up a bit) before I go the glass bedding route.
Have fun!!!
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Here is a link to that article

http://savageaccuracy.com/2010/02/01/how-i-tune-a-savage-receiver/

My DBM model 12 has only 2 action screws. Maybe the 12's without the DBM have 3
 
warrenb said:
Unless you want the 7 twist 223 or detachable mag, then everyone knows the BVSS is the better rifle. Cheaper too. :p :wave: :D
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I've got the VLP DBM 1:7" on back order from Epps, its been 15 weeks now and I dont think the damn thing is in the country yet.

I'd like to hope that it will be as accurate as the other ones I've heard about though...
 
Haga,

I feel your pain. I ordered a stock from Sharp Shooter Supply on the 12 December 2009. My card was charged and I was to wait 8 weeks until it shipped. There are many twists and stories to how the stock was going to be shipped a little later. But it was always going to be shipped to me, 2 more weeks, 3 more weeks etc. Eventually I had them ship to a location 60 miles from their business in Ohio. So all in all it arrived at an agreed destination, albeit the wrong country for me, 364 days after my card was originally charged. I still don't have the stock imported into the country yet.

One other amazing detail is that additional parts I'd ordered that were to be shipped to the Ohio location at the same time did not arrive.

I hope you get your rifle soon. And I hope this story makes you feel better. :)

EDIT: BTW, I have seen pics of the stock and it looks very nice. LOL!
 
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