Anybody bedding their Cadex builds?

Brianma65 said:
Thanks to every one who replied, both professionals and shooters. I thought about all that was said and even though the bedding may not be needed , I'll get it done. My reason being, as I said earlier, time and money. I have a Cadex chassis, Proof CFW 20 in barrel (308). Stiller Tac 30 action , Timmy trigger. ( my limit financially).Once it gets back from the Chou I'll do some shooting. I'm confident that if the gun is capable of 3/4 MOA , then I am also. the reason I chose the Chou Brothers is because of their reputation and location. I know there are others capable of the same quality of work (ATRS for one). Also I wanted a well known Smith so that I wouldn't be regretting my decision, down the road.
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That is an entirely different stmt. The Chou brothers could turn a 2x4 and rebar into a precision rifle. you're in good hands and should have complete confidence in their work and suggestions.

show pics of the rifle and your targets when you get it back.

Trevor
 
The pressure points would be the four steel rollers. I can't be bothered to be constantly checking the torque on my action screws. It would really suck to have one come out of spec half way through a relay. That's why I get my actions glued in. Peace of mind.


Suputin said:
Which pressure points would those be? The action is supported on four steel rollers. There can be no other pressure points with this system.
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kevin9934 said:
If I am not wrong Cadex is moving away from their roller design.
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I saw that, with their complete rifles, but their Dual Strike (and Lite Strike I thinK?) chassis still have them. Should get Patrice to chime in here as well, but it really doesn't matter I guess since the OP has decided on sending it off to get his bedded.
 
I've had my 700 in a Cadex chassis for a little over a year now. Not bedded and as far as I can tell nothing has/is moving or becoming loose. I'm not sure if I did bed it that it would improve all that much. Maybe I'm wrong but so far it shoots just fine.

Some times you just have to do things to eliminate any doubt so if bedding makes you happy go for it.


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Figuring out a slower load to preserve the throat. All 5 shots @ 100.

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300 yards.

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Those are some great groups! And great shooting. However, do you think bedding might help out with your vertical dispersion?


Toolman said:
I've had my 700 in a Cadex chassis for a little over a year now. Not bedded and as far as I can tell nothing has/is moving or becoming loose. I'm not sure if I did bed it that it would improve all that much. Maybe I'm wrong but so far it shoots just fine.

Some times you just have to do things to eliminate any doubt so if bedding makes you happy go for it.


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Figuring out a slower load to preserve the throat. All 5 shots @ 100.

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300 yards.

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rl4930 said:
Those are some great groups! And great shooting. However, do you think bedding might help out with your vertical dispersion?
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Seeing as how I'm getting .3 - .5 moa out of it now I really have no idea if it will do better. What I know is that it shoots how I want it to.
 
Bedded is always better for accuracy.
Good news is the cadex's are easier to do because of the stand off provided by the rollers. You don't even need to remove the rollers.
I'm not sure what the point of the rollers was in the first place, perhaps to attempt to eliminate thermal shift, or for use with crappy out of spec recievers. Or an attempt to float the receivers harmonics ?
The rollers are actually introducing points of high stress, exactly the opposite of what bedding does, and what you want.
It'll shoot half moa for sure with just the chassis, the barrel and no bedding. But a well tuned rifle will do better than that, in the .3 range. A really well done rifle is down in the .1-.2 range.
Most people are .5 shooters/loaders though, and couldn't tell the difference anyways. Hence why a drop in chassis works for most people.
We are really talking about tactical/f class accuracy vs benchrest accuracy here.
You'll be happy whether you bed it or not. In your case I wouldn't bed it in case you choose to switch out the action for a surgeon or bat at some point in the future, perhaps when you rebarrel...
 
So the more expensive actions does what better? I was going to get a rem 700 action, then decided on a stiller tac 30, after the smith explained why the tac 30 was better. But what does a more expensive action have over the stiller?
 
Brianma65 said:
So the more expensive actions does what better? I was going to get a rem 700 action, then decided on a stiller tac 30, after the smith explained why the tac 30 was better. But what does a more expensive action have over the stiller?
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My apologies, I thought you were using a trued up factory 700. The stiller is a good action. The high dollar ones just have a bit tighter tolerances and some other interesting features that make machinists geek out, but have limited value outside of the benchrest discipline or highest levels of f class competition. Bed it, the chous bros are correct...
 
kevin9934 said:
If I am not wrong Cadex is moving away from their roller design.
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We are not moving away from the roller bedding technology. Why would we go away from something that works great for a round action.

Our CDX actions are not round at the bottom portion, we are not Remington 700 footprint compliant, so different design of the action requires different design of the chassis lower receiver.

99% of Cadex customers are not bedding their chassis system and the results are awesome. Never in the last 2.5 years anybody from the 1% that bedded their chassis has claimed that they achieved better results after bedding it. However I've seen one of these guys doing it wrong and screwed up their accuracy because the excess of bedding ran into the recoil lug area and leaked where the lower receiver meets the front tube causing the barrel no more being in the center of the tube and this customer was a rifle maker...

Rule of thumb... if it ain't broken then don't fix it. Roller bedding technology has proven to be effective. We sell close to 1000 chassis per year worldwide and most of the reviews ever done on our products mentions that they are the best chassis money can buy so we must do something good otherwise we'd be closed. In our business you can't cheat the customers really long, either your quality is top notch or your business is dead.

Bed it if you want or don't bed it if you trust us but one way or another please give it a chance first and let the gun do the talking. Paper doesn't lie so then you'll advise if it doesn't perform to your expectations.

Thanks guys.

P.S.: I'm leaving for another trade show tomorrow but next week I will take couple minutes to share with you some pics of our new 50BMG. Stay tuned :) Here's a teaser picture

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Cadex Defence said:
We are not moving away from the roller bedding technology. Why would we go away from something that works great for a round action.

Our CDX actions are not round at the bottom portion, we are not Remington 700 footprint compliant, so different design of the action requires different design of the chassis lower receiver.

99% of Cadex customers are not bedding their chassis system and the results are awesome. Never in the last 2.5 years anybody from the 1% that bedded their chassis has claimed that they achieved better results after bedding it. However I've seen one of these guys doing it wrong and screwed up their accuracy because the excess of bedding ran into the recoil lug area and leaked where the lower receiver meets the front tube causing the barrel no more being in the center of the tube and this customer was a rifle maker...

Rule of thumb... if it ain't broken then don't fix it. Roller bedding technology has proven to be effective. We sell close to 1000 chassis per year worldwide and most of the reviews ever done on our products mentions that they are the best chassis money can buy so we must do something good otherwise we'd be closed. In our business you can't cheat the customers really long, either your quality is top notch or your business is dead.

Bed it if you want or don't bed it if you trust us but one way or another please give it a chance first and let the gun do the talking. Paper doesn't lie so then you'll advise if it doesn't perform to your expectations.

Thanks guys.

P.S.: I'm leaving for another trade show tomorrow but next week I will take couple minutes to share with you some pics of our new 50BMG. Stay tuned :) Here's a teaser picture

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Well, that's what a lot of us have been waiting for!
 
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