anybody here hunt with 350 Legend?

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Hey guys-I'll say upfront, I don't have any hunting aspirations...at least the kind that this caliber might be useful for. However, I'm not sure the next gun needs to be a(nother) 22LR either. A punchy, short-range gun with some accuracy potential might be kind of fun/different to mess around with!

Assuming most guys using these are putting them to use in some kind of hunting role, what have you found it best for...pros/cons? Anyone taken a coyote with it? Nothing bigger than a deer I imagine? Real world/practical range for the game you pursue?

Just seriously considering this caliber for the first time, would love to hear how people like it.

thanks!
 
There are US states that have cartridge restrictions based on specific descriptions. The straight wall centrefire restriction doesn't exist in Canada. We've got bullet diameter restrictions instead.
 
I've never hunting or even shot one but have been seriously considering getting a Howa mini in it. The velocity and energy numbers would make it more than adequate for deer out to 200yds. With a good bullet like the Barnes 170gr TSX I think it would be good for moose or elk at closer ranges. I like the low recoil numbers as well as the low muzzle blast. I have all sorts of hard kicking, muzzle blasting rifles and sometimes a nice mild cartridge is just more appealing lol.
 
I don't live in a state with a straight wall cartridge restriction (North Carolina) but I was fascinated by this cartridge when it was first introduced. After a year or so I gave in to my curiosity and bought an AR upper with a 16 inch barrel chambered for it. After mating it with a lower I already had I went on a somewhat lengthy journey trying to get the thing to function properly. Finally got it to function by using an H2 heavy buffer. It now shoots reliably but the best group so far is about an inch and a half at a hundred yards. That's using cheap Winchester FMJ plinking ammo. The barrel is free floated. I suspect that out of a decent hunting rifle using premium ammo it would do considerably better. I intend to try it deer hunting this fall.
 
I admit to deliberately ignoring most of the newest, greatest, most innovative cartridges that appear every season. There are a lot of orphans and failed projects that are interesting but evolutionary deadends.

The Shooting Times article I read summarized 350 Legend as, a modified, straight-walled .223 Rem. shell case and a .357-inch bullet. It looks like an enlarged .30 Carbine at first glance. The claimed competition is .243, .30-30, and .300 BO. If the object is to have an ethical one-shot kill for Canadian big game, the parent case seems too small in capacity. Yes it is a 9mm bullet, but 9mm rifle bullets are much more substantial than 9mm pistol bullets. I'm not even sure you will be able to find well-constructed short 9mm hunting bullets. Velocity arguments aside, to me, the 350 Legend is not enough gun.
 
jbmauser said:
I've never hunting or even shot one but have been seriously considering getting a Howa mini in it. The velocity and energy numbers would make it more than adequate for deer out to 200yds. With a good bullet like the Barnes 170gr TSX I think it would be good for moose or elk at closer ranges. I like the low recoil numbers as well as the low muzzle blast. I have all sorts of hard kicking, muzzle blasting rifles and sometimes a nice mild cartridge is just more appealing lol.
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Good starting point! I've carried a .300 WM for all game in Saskatchewan. I upgunned from a perfectly satisfactory Eastern woods .30-06 because my most likely range meant a trajectory at Maximum Point Blank Range 'hold on the body' point of aim. The faster flatter bullets never disappointed. Having to judge distance and holdover in the flick of a whitetail's flag was not a chance I wanted to take. As an inexperience hunter, I realized I was outthinking myself. As I progressed on my journey to more knowledge, the goal has always been to not cause suffering or lose an animal.
 
A lot of these new cartridges that hit the market look like solutions in search of a problem.

Since we don't have "straight wall" requirements in our hunting cartridge choices, there are several mild-mannered choices for hunting deer inside 200 yards.

The first two that come to mind are the 30-30 and 35 Remington. No need to worry about making either fit an AR mag.

Lots of people already hunt with a well-suited deer round, namely the 7.62x39. That Cold Warrior has proven itself as a modern alternative to the 30-30.

There's also the 360 Buckhammer which comes pretty close to the not-so-old (but obsolete) 375 Winchester. The 375 Winchester remains an effective round for hunting deer, black bears and moose in the bush.

As for the 350 Legend, if we could hunt with our ARs I might consider it. Since that question is moot, there are other tried and true classics to enjoy.
 
Thanks guys-appreciate the input!


A-zone said:
A lot of these new cartridges that hit the market look like solutions in search of a problem.

Since we don't have "straight wall" requirements in our hunting cartridge choices, there are several mild-mannered choices for hunting deer inside 200 yards.

The first two that come to mind are the 30-30 and 35 Remington. No need to worry about making either fit an AR mag.

Lots of people already hunt with a well-suited deer round, namely the 7.62x39. That Cold Warrior has proven itself as a modern alternative to the 30-30.

There's also the 360 Buckhammer which comes pretty close to the not-so-old (but obsolete) 375 Winchester. The 375 Winchester remains an effective round for hunting deer, black bears and moose in the bush.

As for the 350 Legend, if we could hunt with our ARs I might consider it. Since that question is moot, there are other tried and true classics to enjoy.
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^great information, thanks! Neither the caliber, nor the rifle itself are things I could see myself with even a couple of weeks ago. Holding off on a 22LR purchase as I feel driven to try this silly idea out. lol Variety is the spice of life. :)
 
maple_leaf_eh said:
I admit to deliberately ignoring most of the newest, greatest, most innovative cartridges that appear every season. There are a lot of orphans and failed projects that are interesting but evolutionary deadends.

The Shooting Times article I read summarized 350 Legend as, a modified, straight-walled .223 Rem. shell case and a .357-inch bullet. It looks like an enlarged .30 Carbine at first glance. The claimed competition is .243, .30-30, and .300 BO. If the object is to have an ethical one-shot kill for Canadian big game, the parent case seems too small in capacity. Yes it is a 9mm bullet, but 9mm rifle bullets are much more substantial than 9mm pistol bullets. I'm not even sure you will be able to find well-constructed short 9mm hunting bullets. Velocity arguments aside, to me, the 350 Legend is not enough gun.
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Barnes makes a 170gr TSX designed specifically for the 350. If it's even close to all the other TSX or TTSX I've used on game the performance and penetration should be more than adequate for clean one shot kills at reasonable ranges.
 
.22LRGUY said:
Thanks guys-appreciate the input!




^great information, thanks! Neither the caliber, nor the rifle itself are things I could see myself with even a couple of weeks ago. Holding off on a 22LR purchase as I feel driven to try this silly idea out. lol Variety is the spice of life. :)
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Sometimes you just have to scratch the itch.

https://store.prophetriver.com/howa...d-barrel-3rd-detachable-magazine-mfg-hma350b/

I wouldn't call it a silly idea. Sometimes you just need to try things out. I expect it will be a low-recoil experience.

If you go for "the Legend" post your results. Inquiring minds would like to know.
 
A-zone said:
Sometimes you just have to scratch the itch.

https://store.prophetriver.com/howa...d-barrel-3rd-detachable-magazine-mfg-hma350b/

I wouldn't call it a silly idea. Sometimes you just need to try things out. I expect it will be a low-recoil experience.

If you go for "the Legend" post your results. Inquiring minds would like to know.
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Thanks A-zone, kinda my thinking. I can agonize over how much I might like/not like the gun/caliber...but there is only one way to really find out. :) And I saw that PR opportunity, about 1/2 the reason I started the thread. Hate selling/shipping in the last couple of years for obvious reasons, so I consider that seriously when taking a chance on something new.

Also saw the VX-freedom scope ($500) specific to 350 Legend. This could add up. lol
 
jbmauser said:
I like the low recoil numbers as well as the low muzzle blast. I have all sorts of hard kicking, muzzle blasting rifles and sometimes a nice mild cartridge is just more appealing lol.
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Me too, I just do it with .25 cal lately. I debated a mini double in .350 Legend, simply on account of needing an ultra slim case and it was the smallest cartridge that made the minimum velocity I wanted to see. In the end couldn’t see a good reason not to scale the project up a bit to .30-30 / .375 Win dimensions, as a rim isn’t a hindrance in a double it’s a help.
 
When it first dropped I thought the 350 Legend was so freakin' cool. But after spending a while pondering it I have decided it doesn't do anything that a myriad of other cartridges do better. But then again the two numbers I really look at when considering cartridges is velocity and sectional density, and that is exactly the two specs where the 350L doesn't look good.

Not living in a place where I can hunt with an AR and not living in a place with Straight Wall hunting restrictions, I decided that a 243 Winchester is a much better option for a low recoil gun for my purposes - higher velocity, higher sectional density (and 243cal sectional density kinda sucks to begin with), flatter shooting, similar recoil... And if I wanted something that simply tosses a fatter bullet then lever action cartridges like 30-30, 35Rem, 444 marlin, and 45-70 all seem like better options at least to me.
 
Ardent said:
Me too, I just do it with .25 cal lately. I debated a mini double in .350 Legend, simply on account of needing an ultra slim case and it was the smallest cartridge that made the minimum velocity I wanted to see. In the end couldn’t see a good reason not to scale the project up a bit to .30-30 / .375 Win dimensions, as a rim isn’t a hindrance in a double it’s a help.
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A double in 25/35 would be epic but the new 360 buckhammer could be a very useful double
 
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