anybody know where I can find an antique 45-70 single shot

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the better the bore the better :D please pm me :D
hoping for a Rolling Block since I have a rear sight for one....
Thanks guys :D
 
This fellow had a springfield trapdoor carbine in 45-70 (it looked to be in really, really good shape) - Made in 1896 - and doesn't have to be registered.

Sorensen's [drsorensen@telus.net]

Good luck with your hunt for a 45-70!

Rick
 
The easiest way might be to build one. Find a pre-1898 Martini action (super easy to do) and get your smith to spin on a .45-70 bbl.

Like any antique action, you will only be able to do light SAAMI spec .45-70 loads. Only shoot the hot reloads in modern guns.

If you don't mind modern made repros, Marstar now has a variety or remakes for sale. They have a .45LC rolling block carbine that would be really cool to rechamber for .45-70 8)
 
Forty4Forty said:
This is debatable Trapdoor not registered, as the 45-70 cartridge is readily available and centre fire therefore firearm should be registered. Mine is.
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Not debatable at all, if you read the factsheet that you posted carefully. Yours can be deregistered if you like, so long as the actual rifle was made before 1898. There's nothing in the law about "readily available" ammunition. (Although I think it may have read something like that pre-C-68 )
http://www.cfc-ccaf.gc.ca/info_for-renseignement/factsheets/antique_e.asp

The Criminal Code defines antique firearms as:
· firearms manufactured before 1898 that were not designed or re-designed to discharge rim-fire or centre-fire ammunition, or
· firearms prescribed as antique firearms in the Criminal Code regulations. These are:

Rifles:
manufactured before 1898 that can discharge only rim-fire cartridges, other than 22 Calibre Short, 22 Calibre Long or 22 Calibre Long Rifle cartridges;
manufactured before 1898 that can discharge centre-fire cartridges (whether with a smooth or rifled bore), have a bore diameter of 8.3 mm or greater, measured from land to land in the case of a rifled bore, with the exception of a repeating firearm fed by any type of cartridge magazine



Mayber 8.3 is less than .45 have not worked out.

Why an antique, can get an H&R Buffalo for arround 500.00.

http://www.hr1871.com/firearms/index.php?cat=4&subcat=23

At 100yrd with black powder sub, mine is a tack driver, just have to be carefull with break action.
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.45 is around 11.5 mm. Any single shot pre-1898 rifle of calibre over around .33 is an antique and does not need registration in canada. As far as why not buy a new H&R, I guess there's no reason, if you trust your government... ;)
 
Agreed. .45 cal is WAY over 8.3mm.

Anything over .327" is over 8.3mm so even a .35 Whelen built on a pre-1898 receiver is AN ANTIQUE.

If you found a pre-98 M95 mauser you could build a single-shot .35 Whelen sporter on it and not have to register it so long as it's not built as a repeater ;) you'd either have to use a stock not machined for the mag box, or have a mag box welded up to act as a feed ramp only.

That being said, you might lose your gun to the cops for a while until you are able to explain that you are not in posession of an unregistered controlled firearm. :roll:

But a .45-70 on a pre-98 made action is an antique under our current laws... hey... it doesn't have to make sense! :wink:
 
Claven2 said:
That being said, you might lose your gun to the cops for a while until you are able to explain that you are not in posession of an unregistered controlled firearm.
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If it is unregistered then how would they know you had it in the first place...no paper trail means nothing to follow up on...except this thread of course :wink:
 
peckerwood said:
Claven2 said:
That being said, you might lose your gun to the cops for a while until you are able to explain that you are not in posession of an unregistered controlled firearm.
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If it is unregistered then how would they know you had it in the first place...no paper trail means nothing to follow up on...except this thread of course :wink:
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I was thinking about if they saw you in the field with it and asked for a reg cert...
 
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wannabe said:
the better the bore the better :D please pm me :D
hoping for a Rolling Block since I have a rear sight for one....
Thanks guys :D
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There's a Mexican rolling block in the EE section right now
 
I was thinking about if they saw you in the field with it and asked for a reg cert...
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Well CFC will give you a letter if you ask that States this gun is Antique and lience and registration is not required :wink:
I have one letter for pretty much every antique i got and if questioned by a CO or Cop in the feild or road block i think the letter should work or at least help.
 
Claven2 said:
peckerwood said:
Claven2 said:
That being said, you might lose your gun to the cops for a while until you are able to explain that you are not in posession of an unregistered controlled firearm.
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If it is unregistered then how would they know you had it in the first place...no paper trail means nothing to follow up on...except this thread of course :wink:
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I was thinking about if they saw you in the field with it and asked for a reg cert...
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If I am going to carry anything while out with the antiques then it will be the SOR 98-464 Regulations Prescribing Antiques...along with a copy of the writ showing which serial numbers are pre1898. :wink:

Other than that if I am not breaking any other laws on ordinance then they can politely get stuffed :lol: Of course I wont exactly say it like that but they will most certainly get the meaning.

I personally would not give up the opportunity to hunt with an antique like a Springfield Trapdoor 45-70 :D That would about make my year.

PW
 
Winston - if you deregister it, you will find a buyer MUCH easier. Everyone hates unnecessarily registered antique muzzle-loaders. Perhaps me most of all!
 
My neighbor has a rolling block, antique ( not required to register) that has been recently rebarreled. He was thinking of selling it after this deer season, if you are really serious I could walk across the street and ask him for you.
 
I have 71/84 Mauser bolt actions that where made antique by welding the mag tube receiving hole shut and welding the magazine cutoff shut.

These bubba'd 71/84s are not hard to come by, usually cheap, and converting to antique by making them single shot is not skill intensive.
 
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