Anyone flying to the Nationals with Air Canada from Toronto

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The idiots at Air Canada say they have to open the case at the Toronto airport to verify the contents before it can be checked. I told them that its against the law to do so. Has anyone had a refusal at the airport if you tell them to go jump in a lake!

Any comments.
 
I've traveled with Air Canada couple years back. They should be bringing your luggage to oversized belt where CATSA folks might decide to open/inspect it. But certainly not at the counter.
 
I've been asked to open it at the counter and complied but did it in a very discreet manner.....no problems.
 
I've had to do that in Buffalo, I make sure everyone can see what I'm doing...lol...makes for an interesting flight.
 
Air Canada...never again if I could avoid it. A bunch of F"/$ng AS&&??e. They are not even workers friendly. Checking for your lost luggage in India anyone!
 
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I usually ask to have a LEO present and then hand the keys to the counter people and tell them to open it themselves.
 
enoch said:
Air Canada...never again if I could avoid it. A bunch of F"/$ng AS&&??e. They are not even workers frendly. Checking for your lost luggage in India anyone!
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They don't even know where our luggage is suppose to go. Not even a good understanding of a simple language. They do have a script to read when you call them. But asking for information or direction in tracking lost baggage or any other information, forget it. Notorious to be late in almost everything, WESTJET should be the new flag carrier. We just came from a trip down south, I should have taken another airline. Their fare looks cheap. But adding up the baggage charges, I should have looked for some other carrier.
 
You guys are getting too worked up. Check your bags, notify them you are traveling with ammo and unloaded firearm, fill in the forms and proceed to oversize bagage. When there it seems to be about 50/50 whether they will open and inspect or not. No big deal, don't make it harder on yourself than it needs to be. I find they really don't know what they are supposed to do so if you are confident but polite it goes way easier.
 
If you had the common sense to look around the airport you would see that there are posters up that state" if you do not wish to have your luggage inspected it is your right not to have it inspected,however it will not go on the airplane. THIS IS TRANSPORT CANADA RULES. Not Air Canada's.
 
bizman89 said:
You guys are getting too worked up. Check your bags, notify them you are traveling with ammo and unloaded firearm, fill in the forms and proceed to oversize bagage. When there it seems to be about 50/50 whether they will open and inspect or not. No big deal, don't make it harder on yourself than it needs to be. I find they really don't know what they are supposed to do so if you are confident but polite it goes way easier.
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What your stating works for every airline 9 / 10 times other than Air Canada. I've been asked to "show empty" every time I've had to fly with that terrible airline.

Do yourself a favor and fly Westjet.
 
kgwalsh12 said:
The idiots at Air Canada say they have to open the case at the Toronto airport to verify the contents before it can be checked. I told them that its against the law to do so. Has anyone had a refusal at the airport if you tell them to go jump in a lake!

Any comments.
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I have only been asked once, that was catsa in Vancouver, not the airline.
they wanted to see the gun out of the case. Yes it pissed me off. I pulled my pistol out and held it up in front of the idiots face. Dealt with him twice since then, and now he wont even touch the case, or ask anything, makes me put it on the conveyor.

Did air canada inform you that your gun is also going to cost you an extra $50 bucks each way yet? air canada= full fail.
 
bizman89 said:
You guys are getting too worked up. Check your bags, notify them you are traveling with ammo and unloaded firearm, fill in the forms and proceed to oversize bagage. When there it seems to be about 50/50 whether they will open and inspect or not. No big deal, don't make it harder on yourself than it needs to be. I find they really don't know what they are supposed to do so if you are confident but polite it goes way easier.
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i agree - i fly Air Canada all the time ... and as others have said its not AC policy its Transport Canada's policy on bag inspection. Really your gun should have been declared and checked from your departing airport so if AC wants to see it again - really what's the issue. Last year i was in the airport flying AC 2-3 times a month with a gun ...mainly going to the US - it got to a point I knew the US secondary screening guys and gals by name...with each flight I had to show my gun at check in and then again at secondary. This year I'm traveling 1/2 as much but same thing.

as Pat says sometime it makes it interesting when not only AC staff but others see the guns and the you are on the same flight - lol
 
I have flown hundreds of times with firearms, never ever had a problem with either airlines or customs. (I have seen shooters who make an issue out of it and create their own problems)

There was one time when they asked me to take the guns out at the counter and show them that they were unloaded. I said "Gun safety rules say you should first point it in a safe direction and then open the action, what's behind that wall over there?

They just told me to close it up, they would take my word for it :rockOn:
 
I forgot to add the best tip for traveling with guns.

Rather than go to the counter and say you have guns, just ask for a firearms declaration. And when you get to customs, rather than blurting out that you have firearms, tell them you are attending a shooting competition. Then they will ask you if you are taking firearms with you.

It's how you say things that can make it either go good or bad for you.
 
kanada kidd said:
I forgot to add the best tip for traveling with guns.

Rather than go to the counter and say you have guns, just ask for a firearms declaration. And when you get to customs, rather than blurting out that you have firearms, tell them you are attending a shooting competition. Then they will ask you if you are taking firearms with you.

It's how you say things that can make it either go good or bad for you.
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This is excellent advice! :cheers:
 
So pulling it out in the baggage line and saying in a loud voice "what should I do with this!" is bad?
 
Going through Fort St. John once I told them I had four handguns in the case. Security scanned it and sure enough they saw the guns. They asked if I would might if they took a picture. I asked why. They had never seen a real gun before.

Doesn't this make you feel so secure when you fly?
 
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