Anyone had a problem with rounds jamming in a VZ58 Carbine?

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I just got my 7.62 VZ58 carbine today, went to test it out and every round seems to jam. I have to remove the magazine to get it unjammed. After about thirty attemps with four different magazines, I didn't have one rouond chamber. Is this a common problem, or is there a simple fix? I really don't want to have send it back. BTW I was using MFS ammo.

On a positive note, this is a very cool little rifle, I can't wait till I can get it to feed properly.

Thanks for any input you can provide
 
It is jamming with the tip of the bullet just inside the chamber opening. It is jammed solid, I can't pry it loose without removing the magazine.

I am inserting a full (5 round) mag and snapping the bolt back and releasing it. I'm not "eazing" it forward. I hav also tryed it with just one round in the mag, still jams.

I may have to take a pic of the position the round is in when it gets jammed.
 
Please stop using jam/jamming/jammed. It's not descriptive or explanatory. You're having a failure-to-feed.

Is the mag fully latched in? The lip should be pretty much flush with the receiver along it's full length.

olansky said:
check to see if you have a broken casing in the chamber
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It is jamming with the tip of the bullet just inside the chamber opening.
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makes it sound not like a broken case, unless "just inside" means "most of the way".
 
Sorry for the non descriptive choice of words, I guess a picture is worth a thousand words

First pic is just after I pull the bolt to the rear and release


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Second and third pic are with the bolt locked back again, and the round is "jammed" (sorry don't know a better word). I can not get it to go forwards or backwards or back into the magazine. Once I release the magazine, the "jammed" round drops free.

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Was the carbine brand new? Is the chamber clear of obstructions?

It looks pretty dry, have you lubed the receiver rails and bolt carrier?

Edit: from about 3:40 in the video below you can see how it's supposed to feed. Your looks likes it getting most of the way there.

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Thanks to everyone for the help, but I found the problem.

There is a large burr (here come the undescriptive words) under the rear right rail, the one near the lip of the round in the pictures. Took two seconds to remove it, now the rounds chamber perfectly. I wish I had looked closer when I was at the range.

Thanks again
 
surfer365 said:
Thanks to everyone for the help, but I found the problem.

There is a large burr (here come the undescriptive words) under the rear right rail, the one near the lip of the round in the pictures. Took two seconds to remove it, now the rounds chamber perfectly. I wish I had looked closer when I was at the range.

Thanks again
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surfer365 said:
I really appreciate the help :cheers:
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Well done sir!:cheers:

Sounds like you had a Friday quitting time machining/production problem.
 
I had a few ftf when my rifle was new. After a crate of surplus it runs like a charm. Glad you fixed the burr problem though. Maybe mine was all of that crap grey paint all over, that was slowing it down?
 
JAGDMORDER said:
I had a few ftf when my rifle was new. After a crate of surplus it runs like a charm. Glad you fixed the burr problem though. Maybe mine was all of that crap grey paint all over, that was slowing it down?
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One of my 858s and my CSA both ran considerably better after breaking in. With the 858 the rough parkerized receiver rails required lots of lube to get it run nicely. Since the rails have worn shiny, it runs like a champ.

My CSA had weak ejection until broken in.

Both rifles ran without FTFs or FTEs before being broken in, they just run better now. I attribute that to the bolt carrier/receiver rail interface smoothing out.
 
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