I have a CZ557 ranger with iron sights. I’ve just procured a viper 3-9x by 40 mm for it. And I’m looking at the Warne rings that mount direct to the 19mm dovetail of the receiver. At lower range of magnification I suppose I will see the hood? Will it obscure the view a lot? Some notes: The Warne medium rings puts the centre of the 1” tube at .925” above the receiver; high rings will have the centre of the tube at 1.035” above the receiver. With the high rings the bottom of objective lens will be .25” above the receiver (~6mm). Guess I gota go measure the height of the front sight and barrel taper. Anyone done this? I understand it only matters at low magnification, but I’ve realized hunting deer or moose in Ontario (the end use) I want mostly low magnification.
Anyone have a scope on CZ557 ranger w/Iron sights? Will front hood iron sight be in the way
- Thread starter Heimer Schmidt
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and I appreciate someone will say “why are you doing that?” Well I got a hold of a Tikka Arctic which will now be my open sight hunting rifle and I’ve decided my Bergara hmr b14 is a lot to bushwhack with in Ontario close range hunting. (Aside: The Warne rings detach quick and apparently return to zero) … and from my prior posts you may see the rear leaf sight popped off the cz anyway and it will take ages to secure a factory replacement or cost me a few $100 for a after market rear peep sight.
Backcountryal
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- New Zealand
At lower magnification you may see the hood, probably wont on 3X, but you wont know until you try it. But it makes absolutely no difference to your target aquisition or POI.
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- Western Manitoba
As in Post #3 - it will not make a difference to your Point of Aim - but many people will find it "throws them off" if that front sight hood is not dead centre within the scope's view, or if that front sight post is not perfectly in line with the scope's vertical part of the cross hair.
I can imagine that… I’m guessing the closer the target the more they will appear to misalign. At any rate the front iron is meant to line up with the leaf on the barrel but looking through the scope will raise your eye and change the [incorrect] line of sight through the front.. so ignore it if you can see it.
Ok cool- fingers crossed it’s not appearing at 3x, but try to - practice- ignoring it if you see it.
Nice. I was eyeballing it today-at lowest magnification (3x); had the rifle level in a clamp and the scope sitting on some steel plates and I’m not seeing any interference. It was an awkward test -holding the scope without the rings and I’m not sure I achieved a good simulation of my ergonomics when shooting (cheek weld etc). But interestingly the rear leaf sight could get close to being in the way - theoretically -It would only be a few cm in front of the objective- and with rings that only come above the dovetail 9 mm (the random height I achieved with my improvised steel spacers while still being lower than the rings I’m considering). My rear leaf is missing. But raising my finger from that rear leaf sight ramp to obscure the scopes line of sight- I could only see a faint image of my finger … and it was mirrored from the top of the scopes field of view! Getting trippy. Anyways - I agree I think it’s going to be a sweet set up.
How high are your rings from the mounting surface to the bottom of the scope tube? Also did you use Warne’s rings that mount on the dovetail of the receiver, designed for the CZ, or use the picatinny rail? (I took my rail off and can’t find it
- it will show up as soon as I’m done with this new set up) . So that’s two differences I have from stock- the rear leaf sight fell off and I misplaced the railI have front hoods on just about every rifle I own. I've never seen it in the scope, even at low magnification. Most of the lens is just to gather light - you're only really looking through the centre of that glass, and as you increase the magnification, that sight tunnel gets narrower and narrower.
Good to know- thank you. This will be my first rifle with a front site and a scope. Waiting on the rings now from Canada Brass in Tilsonburg- the rings were hard to find- and Warne no longer ships to Canada. This CZ has a dovetail on the receiver and Warne makes a ring specifically for it with a protrusion that will sit in a notch in the dovetail to prevent the rings from sliding back.
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- Vancouver Island, BC
I run an lpvo on the cz range and you shouldn't notice the sights at 3x. You would see it at 1x though.
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- Nova Scotia
3-4x, you may see a halo of it. But personally not a distraction and doesn't effect me. When I scoped my toz and mossberg. That had hooded front sights, and lightly see them.
That’s a few with direct experience at 2.5x and 3x not seeing the hood. At least one of those using the rail on the receiver. In my simulation - holding the scope at 3x on spacers on the receiver, I didn’t see it either. I’ll try to find a few minutes to test it out and provide the verdict!
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- Nova Scotia
I mean then again I'm used to using C7s. So seeing the faint outline of the front sight post.. I got used to it. So my Mossberg with a 4x scope on it, I have not removed the Lyman 20 MJT front globe sight. So way thicker than what a hood be and doesn't bother me. Just a slight shadow.
Ah cool. I used the FN C1, but at that time new officers coming in were being trained with C7s. Frankly it’s surprising we don’t see the barrel.. it just speaks to the narrow scope of view typical scopes involve.
