Anyone have their jewell trigger freeze on them

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It has hppened a few times now and I am noticing usually in very cold weather. When I go to send the bolt home, the bolt will not ####. the sear is not engaging. I have my trigger set at about 10 ounces and with maybe 1/16 of an inch of over all travel. If you wiggle the trigger back and forth it will finally catch after a bit, but not every time. Once you can get it to fire it resets about 80% of the time.
Once the bolt is staying cocked to fire the round, I can pull the trigger completely through its entire range of travel and squeeze way harder than I should have to. It almost feels sticky. I have experienced on two occasions applying more than enough trigger pull thinking the safety was on, pulled my head away from the stock to have a look and BAM....it went off....really delayed. I blame the trigger but could it be the bolt and firing pin spring. I have a speedlock pin and spring in it.
Only other thing I can think of is perhaps on cleaning and oiling before storage (which I store barrels up) maybe a bit of oil ran down the barrel into the bolt body and gummed it up a bit.......but why the crappy trigger feel and inaability to stay cocked?
 
If you have the instructions for the Jewel trigger, it says to clean the trigger removed from the rifle with lighter fluid and blow out with compressed air. Never oil the trigger. These triggers do wear some so after cleaning, do a total readjustment following the instructions. You have described a gummed up trigger malfunction.
Hope this helps.
Mick
 
I'm not sure which Jewel you have, is it maybe at the bottom end of it's adjustment range, and possibly can act up? Did You try to increase both pull weight and travel? My Jewel triggers never give grief, but mine are the BR ones with no safety or bolt stop and stay set at 1.5 ounces.
 
I've been researching triggers recently and this seems somewhat common. Consensus is they make good target/br triggers but need some tlc along the way (flush with lighter fluid) and don't carry much regard from the tactical crowd. There's also folk who have probems with creep below 1lb or so and it seems Jewel takes them in but doesn't really do anything to remedy it. All this from other forums mostly so take it with a pinch of salt. Shilen has some good reviews as does CG Jackson two stage triggers, I'm thinking I'll go with the CG Jackson, pricey but you get a second stage pull that's very light without the "twitchyness" of the really light single stage triggers.
 
Gunslinger said:
I've been researching triggers recently and this seems somewhat common. Consensus is they make good target/br triggers but need some tlc along the way (flush with lighter fluid) and don't carry much regard from the tactical crowd. There's also folk who have probems with creep below 1lb or so and it seems Jewel takes them in but doesn't really do anything to remedy it. All this from other forums mostly so take it with a pinch of salt. Shilen has some good reviews as does CG Jackson two stage triggers, I'm thinking I'll go with the CG Jackson, pricey but you get a second stage pull that's very light without the "twitchyness" of the really light single stage triggers.
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I own and shoot Jewel, CG Jackson (Euro Version) and RPA triggers, all on target rifles. Jewel is my least favoured of the three. The Euro CG Jackson (I have not handled a US version) is a thing of precision construction. The RPA is a step up in external build quality and price compared to the CG, although the feel and function of both two stage triggers is excellent. You are limited wrt the trigger shoes that you can use with RPA though as they utilize a proprietary rail - the CG Jackson incorporates an Anschutz rail, offering nearly unlimited options.
 
Thanks for the replies guys. Is there another alternative to lighter fluid?? I have another jewell on my 6br and it runs pefect cold or not. Never had a pierced primer before. Hope I never do really.
Thanks guys for the input.
 
If you don't want to use lighter fluid or brake clean, you could use isopropyl alcohol. They are all basically the same stuff when comparing what they do.
 
I had an issue with one in my AR a few years back. I call the company in Texas and got Arnold Jewell himself on the phone:eek: He said send it back on his dime for a new one. I told him I was a Canadian, he spent half an hour walking me over step by step on tweaking it. Give them a call, a good company for sure.
 
I think mcm12 has it right...too much lube on the trigger engagments. Cleaning is supposed to be done with lighter fluid the yellow and blue container stuff as it have just enough oil mixed in to the fluid which is left behind when dried to lubricate the trigger.

Trevor
 
I have 5 Jewells and have NEVER had 1 issue. Granted I take them appart and tweak them to my liking.

My 2 oz BR triggers are a DREAM. 1 is actually slightly better than the other if you can imagine that for a 2oz trigger.

The others on the Rem's are good as well. One needs a bit of TLC but nothing I am to worried about. It is just a bad trigger shoe spring but nothing I cannot live with.

I take them appart when I clean and that is only when and if they would act up. I ahve yet to do that. I did polish the 3 levers and inside of the side plates. WOW what a difference in feel. Then I wiped each part down with a small patch with EEZOX on it. Still never a bit of trouble......
 
Jewell triggers locking up

You don't happen to have an aluminum bolt shroud on that rifle. The only Jewell trigger that gave me problems was caused by a galled aluminum shroud with a speed lock spring and a titanium firing pin. Problem disappeared when a steel shroud was installed. The shroud threads that are inside bolt assembly were the problem.
 
Barks said:
Thanks for the replies guys. Is there another alternative to lighter fluid?? I have another jewell on my 6br and it runs pefect cold or not. Never had a pierced primer before. Hope I never do really.
Thanks guys for the input.
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I use BBQ lighter fluid, cause its cheaper than Ronsol (yellow and blue bottle)
that Trevor describes. Alcohol and break cleaner dry out all the oil.

Why wouldn't you want to use lighter fluid??? just don't go near matches.

10 oz is pretty heavy for a Jewel. If you don't have the optional heavy spring. Try lowering the weight to 5oz. I didn't have good luck with heavy pull settings on Jewels

Note to TR shooters. After shooting a possible, on your way to the trigger weight check, spray some break cleaner in your trigger. It dries out all the oil and your trigger will pass, even if marginal. Do it discretely, and you didn't hear it for me.;)
 
Chinbullco said:
You don't happen to have an aluminum bolt shroud on that rifle. The only Jewell trigger that gave me problems was caused by a galled aluminum shroud with a speed lock spring and a titanium firing pin. Problem disappeared when a steel shroud was installed. The shroud threads that are inside bolt assembly were the problem.
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I do in fact have an aluminum shroud. How and why was this the problem and how did you ascertain it as the problem?? I have the original steel shroud I can put back on to see.
I will definitely try the lighter fluid to clean it out. I planned on soaking the entire trigger mechanism in a bowl of fluid for a few minutes and then using compressed air to try blow any caked on bits out.....if there are any. Anyone see a problem with this method.
Thanks again guys for the great help.
 
Barks said:
I do in fact have an aluminum shroud. How and why was this the problem and how did you ascertain it as the problem?? I have the original steel shroud I can put back on to see.
I will definitely try the lighter fluid to clean it out. I planned on soaking the entire trigger mechanism in a bowl of fluid for a few minutes and then using compressed air to try blow any caked on bits out.....if there are any. Anyone see a problem with this method.
Thanks again guys for the great help.
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No problem with that. You will see tiny black bits, and pieces of organic matter laying in in the bowl. Blow it out and let it dry. Sometimes the after market shrouds have loose threads and allow it to be pushed up by the trigger and thus not function properly.

NormB
 
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