Anyone using D4895? What are you finding?
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It depends on what lot. I have some D4895 that's very close to IMR4895 in speed. I use quickload to calculate loads and the predictions with D4895 were almost bang on.
The D4064 lot I got on the other hand was quicker burning than its IMR4046 equivalent. I had to tune quickload from the stock IMR4064 data to get my loads to predict well.
The point is, they're not all the same lot to lot. It's why it's cheaper. I try it, and if I like the results I buy in bulk.
The D4064 lot I got on the other hand was quicker burning than its IMR4046 equivalent. I had to tune quickload from the stock IMR4064 data to get my loads to predict well.
The point is, they're not all the same lot to lot. It's why it's cheaper. I try it, and if I like the results I buy in bulk.
Use CAUTION when taking D4895 loading advice on the forum. The D4895 powder you read about may not be the same as your D4895.
There are at least 2 different LOT numbers of D4895. Each LOT# is essentially a different powder and loads should not be interchanged because there might be substantial difference in pressure characteristics. If someone is asking for or giving D4895 loading advice they should specify the lot number they are using.
The D4895 I bought 1-2 years ago is LOT# 1458. This is somewhat slower than IMR4895
The D4895 I bought this year is LOT# 69. I haven't used this powder yet.
There are at least 2 different LOT numbers of D4895. Each LOT# is essentially a different powder and loads should not be interchanged because there might be substantial difference in pressure characteristics. If someone is asking for or giving D4895 loading advice they should specify the lot number they are using.
The D4895 I bought 1-2 years ago is LOT# 1458. This is somewhat slower than IMR4895
The D4895 I bought this year is LOT# 69. I haven't used this powder yet.
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I also have two different lot #'s. 1458 and 1459. The older 1458 lot is slower than IMR4895. I am stuffing 26.0gr. in a .223 behind a 55gr. FMJ and from an 18.5" barrel am only averaging 2980fps. I can literally just scoop the case full, tap to try and settle, then stuff the bullet on top. I haven't broken into the 1459 lot yet.
Auggie D.
Auggie D.
The 1458 and 1459 lots were within 20 fps of each other in my 308 Win all else the same, the 1459 was slightly slower. It’s good powder but meters poorly as it is longer and thicker powder granules compared to their other powders ime.
Thanks everyone!
Mine also is Lot# 69. I always start cautiously as I realize that there can be a lot of variation.
The D4350 I bought earlier this year is bulkier than the IMR, but seems a bit hotter in my rifle. Accuracy is great.
Mine also is Lot# 69. I always start cautiously as I realize that there can be a lot of variation.
The D4350 I bought earlier this year is bulkier than the IMR, but seems a bit hotter in my rifle. Accuracy is great.
I have found the same thing with the D4350; I am using an old Lyman 55 (it was old when I bought it almost 50 years ago lol), and other than the disk type on my pro-1000s I use for pistol, I have no experience with other powder measures. Are there others that work more consistently with coarser powder?
Burton Urnie
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I do the same, fill the 223 case. Using 55gr sp. Hornady.
4831 and 4895 are quite far apart in burn rate. D4350 would be closer to IMR4831.
Problem solved, I did a lot of looking and reading and ordered the cheapest piece of Plastic on the market, a Lee Precision Perfect Powder Measure. Looks cheap, feels cheap, was cheap to buy, but is the most consistent powder measure I have ever used with extruded powder; varies about .1 grain from time to time; most of the time, it is right on. I am very happy!
Same goes for the D4895; have been using 38 grains of it behind Sierra 120 gr. HPBT Matchkings Consistent < 1 MOA at 100 yards, usually with 2 of 3 touching. Devastates Ground hogs. Hodgedon's data says about 2,700 FPS out of their test barrel. Soft shooting, clean burning.
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Burton Urnie
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- Near Woodstock New Brunswick
The Lee Prefect Powder Measure does work good. ( I have an old #55, it really cuts the extruded powder)
I compared D4895 with IMR 4895 in my .223. IMR grouped a bit better overall but for plinking the difference was not worth worrying about. Both produced sufficient accuracy to consistently knock down the silhouettes all the way to 500 yards. I am glad I stocked up on the D4895 when it was available as it is good value for the money.
In another situation I used D4064 in my 308 and the results were very good producing sub MOA with two types of 150 gr bullets.
If and when that stuff becomes available again stock up.
In another situation I used D4064 in my 308 and the results were very good producing sub MOA with two types of 150 gr bullets.
If and when that stuff becomes available again stock up.
me too, hindsight is always 20-20.
