Just put a WTB on the EE for the Ciener Kit, I did. And someone responded. It fit too long in my 14.5 upper, so I just shaved off a few mm's from the ass-end of the boltcarrier until the upper mated with the lower perfectly. I also shaved off just a hair from the front-the chamber - just enough so that the ejection port cover pin fit matched up with the grooved allowance on the bolt carrier. Oh yeah, even though it functions flawlessly with federal bulk pack from walmart, I still have lakeside spring on order. and some BDM full size mags.
I think I might do a pictoral review of the s**t I done to get it working in my ar. Now, to get a fake can from MFIAP and shoot some CB longs or subsonics and voila, tacticool simulated silenced ar.
). Email Howard directly from his site, he's on his crackberry so he's quick and efficient.
