AR-15 upper on something else than an AR lower

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Is there a such thing as a parts kit that would allow an AR upper receiver to fire and function, that is not an AR lower. Have there been any attempt at one?
 
OP, why do you ask? If it is to have a non-restricted rifle with an AR upper then be aware that the RCMP will do anything necessary to make sure it isn't classified as such.


Mark
 
mmattockx said:
OP, why do you ask? If it is to have a non-restricted rifle with an AR upper then be aware that the RCMP will do anything necessary to make sure it isn't classified as such.


Mark
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hbean said:
Any lower than can bolt onto a unmodified AR upper will be classified as variant thus remained as a restricted.
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Just in case anyone doubts this, have a look at this thread:

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/foru...the-Recently-Prohibited&p=6660588#post6660588


One of my posts in it:
mmattockx said:
Another travesty was perpetrated on Alberta Tactical Rifle when they built a special AR lower to work with a single shot .50BMG upper they made. Their goal was to have a non-restricted single shot long range rifle that used AR lower parts (grip, FCG) for a common feel and easy accesorization. From what I have read, ATRS went so far as to not machine a mag well in the lower and incorporated other changes to make it not work as an AR.

Since the RCMP test on AR's is to see if an AR upper can be fired on the lower, they worked very hard to do just that, even though ATRS made a serious effort to make that impossible.

With dedication, hard work and talent the RCMP firearms lab achieved their goal of firing a standard AR upper off the ATRS lower. They did this by DUCT TAPING THE UPPER INTO PLACE AND FIRING A SINGLE SHOT WITH IT.

Result? Classified restricted and worthless to anyone wanting to shoot the single shot .50BMG outside of a range.


I have no words for the loathing I feel when presented with bureaucratic malfeasance such as this.


Mark
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Confirmation from ATRS:
Originally Posted by alberta tactical rifle 01-23-2011
We have made a few lowers that will work with a modified 50 BMG upper that is designed for an AR lower. The upper is permanently modified so it will no longer accept an AR lower.
The RCMP DID duct tape an unmodified AR upper to our 1st submission and managed to get it to fire 1 round, so deemed that version as restricted.
The latest version has been deemed a "trigger group" hence not needing registration. I am at this time trying to reason with them to reclassify it as a non restricted firearm, as being a trigger group will only result in someone having needless legal expenses when challenged by any LE officer.
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There appears to be no limit to the levels that the RCMP firearms lab will stoop in order to continue their anti-gun agenda.


Mark
 
Someone need to design a rifle that uses a high percentage of ar-15 parts, like the bolt, barrel, magazines, small hardware, but that would pass the test of the rcmp. Then all they would have to manufacture are the upper and lower receivers. Something like an ar-180b / ar-15 hybrid, but make it incompatible with an ar15 upper or lower. It would need to be either a variant of the ar-180b or a unique rifle unto itself.
 
To the OP: There are no ready-made lowers that take an AR-15 upper.
But in some cases the AR-15 upper or some non-restricted lower
can be modified to work together, with or without an adaptor.
There are very few around and people who did or have one generally keep a low profile
so they do not want to trigger scrutiny or bullsh!t arbitrary decisions.





mmattockx said:
OP, why do you ask? If it is to have a non-restricted rifle with an AR upper then be aware that the RCMP will do anything necessary to make sure it isn't classified as such.


Mark
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Yes, but what about the case of a lower that is already classified as non-restricted??
 
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