Are C96 7.63 Broomhandle Mausers Prohibited???

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A friend of mine dropped in for a visit and asked me about C96 Broomhandle Mausers.
If this has been discussed before please direct me to the thread.
He looked at the Marstar site (John's Vault) and noticed C96 Broomhandle Mausers in 7.63 as 12-6 prohibited.
There was one in the restricted side in 7.63 but the 12-6 guns looked like they had barrels longer than 105mm.
Are C96 7.63 Broomhandle Mausers now considered Prohibited?
 
The bolo's(short barrel) and Schnell-Feuer (select fire)are prohibs.
If you've got the cash you can find an antique C96 and not worry about licences etc.
 
There are restricted (105mm +) and prohibited (105mm -) Broomhandle Muasers in 7.63. 7.65 is a prohibited cartridge (.32 ACP) but not 7.62/7.63. 7.63 Mauser was the fastest, meanest handgun cartridge until the invention of the .357 magnum, and there's a reason the original pistols have sights graduated to 1000 meters. The Bolo variety, the most commonly found, is 4" or less than 105mm. They were altered after WWI. The clue is usually that the gun is not described as a "Bolo" and that it has its original graduated sights, vs. fixed ones and a cut down barrel.

There are also of course mis-measured handguns by almost every maker still classified as prohibited, while they really should be restricted. I have bought such handguns from many dealers who could not be bothered to go through the "description change" process. And now I wait ...
 
antiqueguy said:
if it was 12.6 you could have gotten 12.7 prohibited class
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This is correct - I believe one can apply for a 12.7 which allows possession of a grandfathered 12.6.
However you are not allowed to go out shopping for any 12.6 that's available.

Still kicking myself for not buying that 4" revolver before the Liberal's changed the law...ahhh!
Thank you Allen Rock.
 
gunzik said:
There are restricted (105mm +) and prohibited (105mm -) Broomhandle Muasers in 7.63. 7.65 is a prohibited cartridge (.32 ACP) but not 7.62/7.63. 7.63 Mauser was the fastest, meanest handgun cartridge until the invention of the .357 magnum, and there's a reason the original pistols have sights graduated to 1000 meters. The Bolo variety, the most commonly found, is 4" or less than 105mm. They were altered after WWI. The clue is usually that the gun is not described as a "Bolo" and that it has its original graduated sights, vs. fixed ones and a cut down barrel.

There are also of course mis-measured handguns by almost every maker still classified as prohibited, while they really should be restricted. I have bought such handguns from many dealers who could not be bothered to go through the "description change" process. And now I wait ...
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Really? Or, was it the caliber... and then... there are still a few guns in that caliber that are NOT prohibs. At least, were not; RCMP link to prohib list is down 'to be revised' for a while now. Ammo is still sold in stores but is very scarce.
 
CeeZer said:
Really? Or, was it the caliber... and then... there are still a few guns in that caliber that are NOT prohibs. At least, were not; RCMP link to prohib list is down 'to be revised' for a while now. Ammo is still sold in stores but is very scarce.
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Tactical Imports is selling CZ Skorpion pistols in .32 acp right now as restricted class firearms.
 
A very select few of them are antique ;). No license nor registration, no 12.x required, no BS. Shoot em where you can shoot a non-restricted.

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C-96 (Broomhandle) Mausers were made in their standard from with a barrel about 5" long, and in both 7.65 and 9mm Para calibers. These guns are classified in the Canadian system as "restricted". After WWI,. some C-96 pistols had their barrels shortened and are called, "Bolos" because the Bolshevik party in Russia is supposed to have purchased a bunch. Those pistols are prohibited because of the shorter barrel length. Mauser C-96 pistols that are not shortened "Bolo" models are "restricted" and can be acquired by anyone with a "restricted" PAL. The 9mm guns are fewer in number than the 7.63 mm guns, and so, if one is in really nice condition, it can be a bit more pricey. They were arguably he first truly successful autoloading pistol, and are really marvelously designed. They were never really very convenient, but when there were few autoloading pistols, they were there, were ruggedly reliable, and carried more cartridges than a revolver. Winston Churchill carried one as a young officer, and actually used it in combat. A Spanish copy was widely marketed, and both the Germans and the Spanish made full auto models. They certainly can't be used to shoot anything at 1000 meters, but they'll shoot as well as most pistols and better than others. And they're fun.
 
The first handgun I ever owned was a Bolo C96 Broomhandle.
I traded it for a new S&W Model 28 in 357 ammo and cash.
The 28 had a grip that was too big for my hand so it had to go and I got a 586.
Down the road after I cut my collection in half I will be looking for another 586 and a Browning HP.
I liked the C96 but that grip didn't impress me.
 
albayo said:
A friend of mine dropped in for a visit and asked me about C96 Broomhandle Mausers.
If this has been discussed before please direct me to the thread.
He looked at the Marstar site (John's Vault) and noticed C96 Broomhandle Mausers in 7.63 as 12-6 prohibited.
There was one in the restricted side in 7.63 but the 12-6 guns looked like they had barrels longer than 105mm.
Are C96 7.63 Broomhandle Mausers now considered Prohibited?
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I looked at John's vault. The ones you were wondering about were all converted auto's.
 
albayo said:
The first handgun I ever owned was a Bolo C96 Broomhandle.
I traded it for a new S&W Model 28 in 357 ammo and cash.
The 28 had a grip that was too big for my hand so it had to go and I got a 586.
Down the road after I cut my collection in half I will be looking for another 586 and a Browning HP.
I liked the C96 but that grip didn't impress me.
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I don't think anyone is impressed by the grip of a c96 unless they are using the detachable stock. The antique posted above has an interesting custom grip angle but still the C96 is not exactly putting the bore axis in the web of your hand!
The way it's built and it's place in the history of semi auto is the main attraction.
 
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