Are shaved webleys worth more or less than unshaved webleys?

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I'm looking at a Webley Mk II that is unshaved, should I expect to pay more or less than a shaved version?

I understand the collector value is higher, but it is also a lot harder to find brass to reload for. On the other hand, for people who don't reload, it is convenient since you can run Fiocchi 455 Mk II instead of trying to find low-pressure 45 ACP loads.
 
Personally, I would take an altered Webley only if discounted and only if I simply could not find an unmolested one.
 
It's not too difficult to find 455 brass or ammo these days.

Takes a little patience but Fiocchi makes it. Buffalo Bore is doing some apparently. Rustywood.ca has PCI ammo listed as out of stock. I think that is their in house brand so they may be doing more eventually.

I'd much prefer an unmodified Webley. I get why it was done historically but it's still a bit of a shame.

I would also be a bit worried that I'm paying $3000 and up for a shaved gun that someone might have fired full power 45acp ammo in. One cylinder worth? A box? A thousand rounds? There might be signs of that or there might be cracks that aren't easily seen until it spontaneously disassembled.
 
vagrantviking said:
It's not too difficult to find 455 brass or ammo these days.

Takes a little patience but Fiocchi makes it. Buffalo Bore is doing some apparently. Rustywood.ca has PCI ammo listed as out of stock. I think that is their in house brand so they may be doing more eventually.

I'd much prefer an unmodified Webley. I get why it was done historically but it's still a bit of a shame.

I would also be a bit worried that I'm paying $3000 and up for a shaved gun that someone might have fired full power 45acp ammo in. One cylinder worth? A box? A thousand rounds? There might be signs of that or there might be cracks that aren't easily seen until it spontaneously disassembled.
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You’ve posted the biggest concern in my opinion. How much stress has it been through by numerous owners over the years. I had one once and am now the owner of an unmolested one and much happier now.
 
I agree with all that has been said. They were shaved so that they could use more readily available ammo…military ball. Quite robust. I would not buy a shaved gun myself but you do you. My 2 cents
 
Original gun I think should be worth more and I won’t have a shaved one. Brass is available or easy to make out of 45 Colt. All of my brass is made from 45 Colt. And as others have said how powerful of 45 acp loads have been fired in it ? I will always choose an original over a bubba done fixed it anytime.
 
lonapir12 said:
I'm looking at a Webley Mk II that is unshaved, should I expect to pay more or less than a shaved version?

I understand the collector value is higher, but it is also a lot harder to find brass to reload for. On the other hand, for people who don't reload, it is convenient since you can run Fiocchi 455 Mk II instead of trying to find low-pressure 45 ACP loads.
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I prefer mine waxed.
 
lonapir12 said:
So if the 45 ACP ones are going for $3000-$3500, should I expect to pay around $3500-$4000 for an unshaved one?
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Well, you could have got a nice one for about $1700 about 10 years ago or about 2G a few years ago and now about what you posted. Will prices go up in the future? I’d bet they would.
 
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