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Has anyone found away around or over the Mass. gun laws..so that USPSA members from outside the USA can compete in Matches in that state?

I don't understand exactly how a state law can trump a Federal law (form 6)
 
maurice said:
Has anyone found away around or over the Mass. gun laws..so that USPSA members from outside the USA can compete in Matches in that state?

I don't understand exactly how a state law can trump a Federal law (form 6)
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As long as you have an official invite you should be good to go. Like MA, NYS only issues pistol permits to NYS residents, but if you are from out of state and are shooting in a sanctioned match there isn't a problem. I have buddies of mine that travel from NYS and shoot in matches in MA. If in doubt call MA's state police.
 
Sititunga said:
Really? So the Area 7 championship is only open to MA residents? I live in NY, friends of mine regularly shoot in MA and they've been told they can't go. It can't be right.
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Only applies to Canadians and other Non-Americans living outside the US
Dear Canadian Resident,

It is with great regret and sadness that we must cancel your 2011 Area 7 Championship registration and return your match fee.

While the match staff does not provide legal advice, we cannot knowingly accept registrations from persons who may not legally possess a handgun within the state of Massachusetts.

We have been advised that the "competition exemption" provided by Massachusetts law is specifically limited to persons living in the US, and have confirmed this with the director of the Massachusetts Firearms Records Bureau. Enclosed is a copy of the relevant law so you can see for yourself. Please note this is a state law, and, as such, the possession of an approved BATFE Form 6 does not provide an exemption from Massachusetts limits on handgun possession.

We have also learned that the position of the state is that non-US residents are not eligible to apply for a Massachusetts firearms license, as they consider the term "alien" to apply only to persons living within the US.

We regret having to deliver this unfortunate news, and wish you the best for the shooting season.
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Sititunga said:
Really? So the Area 7 championship is only open to MA residents? I live in NY, friends of mine from here regularly shoot in MA and they've never been told they can't go. It can't be right.
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Like Dinsdale pointed out; - it's not out of state but out of country (Foreigners) they can't allow in. :(
 
Sititunga said:
Well that's f*7k*ng ridiculous. This is a sanctioned match something needs to be done about this. What are USPSA doing about it?
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Rob Boudrie..the area 7 director is doing what he can. I believe he has launched a legal case against this ...
 
How is this law applied??
Is it legal for a Canadian to travel thru MA with a handgun as long as they have an approved Form 6NIA ??
 
Sititunga said:
Well that's f*7k*ng ridiculous.
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Completely agree! Combine the US DOS post-9-11 fear of foreigners and the anti-gun rhetoric of MA and... :puke:

BPCR said:
How is this law applied??
Is it legal for a Canadian to travel thru MA with a handgun as long as they have an approved Form 6NIA ??
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I'm no lawyer - but I thought there was some federal interstate agreement that said "if it's legal where you started, and legal where you're going; so long as you don't stray from 'passing through' - you're OK." but I think I saw something in American Rifleman where the NRA said some states were considering ignoring that - New Jersey - I think was one of them. It's worth checking with some state trooper detachments BEFORE you hit the road, though.
 
Freedom Ventures said:
I'm no lawyer - but I thought there was some federal interstate agreement that said "if it's legal where you started, and legal where you're going; so long as you don't stray from 'passing through' - you're OK." but I think I saw something in American Rifleman where the NRA said some states were considering ignoring that - New Jersey - I think was one of them. It's worth checking with some state trooper detachments BEFORE you hit the road, though.
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That`s absolutely true there is a federal law that states just that. I travel through NYC sometimes to get to an NJ or PA match. The guns have to be locked up and ammo locked in a separate box. I can`t see how they can throw the book at you if it is clear you are just passing through and complying with their firearms transport requirements.
 
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