Ares Polymer 80% AR15 Lower Receivers

[incorrigible]

Might have to put a few of these in the back yard $70US per set. Nice idea... wish there was a jig for a conventional lower availible.

h ttp://aresarmor.com/store/Item/Polymer-80-Black

 

[Trinimon]

Cool. Would make a cool paperweight... or milled out the magwell most of the way and make a pen holder.

 

[Deuce-deuce]

The mag wells on 80% receivers are normally milled out.

 

[jparent]

I'd be in for a couple.

 

[jjr]

Ares won't ship any of their 80% stuff here, I've asked in the past. I've asked Armtac since they import Ares and they flat out said no.

 

[mini15]

I'd be in for one.

 

[pointandshoot]

Does anyone actually know the legalities of exporting one from the states/importing one into canada? Seems like a lot of ppl talk about these but don't hear nearly as many milling these things out and shooting them.

 

[HeadDamage]

wish there was a jig for a conventional lower availible.

There used to be so I assume there still are.

 

[mini15]

Does anyone actually know the legalities of exporting one from the states/importing one into canada? Seems like a lot of ppl talk about these but don't hear nearly as many milling these things out and shooting them.

Well an 80% is considered a block of steel in the U.S. and it is so here as well. So driving across the border with one would be no different then the truck carrying i-beams across the border.

You're importing a piece of steel theoretically.

I wouldn't be surprised however if doing such thing landed you on some kind of watch list.

 

[*MALICE*]

Well an 80% is considered a block of steel in the U.S. and it is so here as well. So driving across the border with one would be no different then the truck carrying i-beams across the border.

You're importing a piece of steel theoretically.

I wouldn't be surprised however if doing such thing landed you on some kind of watch list.

Actually..........it's ITAR controlled

So while legal to bring into Canada, it can't leave the states without the proper export paperwork.

 

[mini15]

Actually..........it's ITAR controlled

So while legal to bring into Canada, it can't leave the states without the proper export paperwork.

Well I stand corrected then. I'm surprised at how something that isn't a firearm can be ITAR controlled... How many %'s would it have to be to quality as an i-beam?

60% lower?

 

[*MALICE*]

Well I stand corrected then. I'm surprised at how something that isn't a firearm can be ITAR controlled... How many %'s would it have to be to quality as an i-beam?

60% lower?

Even a raw forging is ITAR controlled IIRC

I would imagine if you had an unshaped block of aluminum you could probably walk that across no problems

 

[Ebola]

Are there any other 80% lowers available in Canada that come with the jigs and bits and what not?

 

[dogzilla]

None of them come with a jig, you have to buy it separate, that puts the price up around the same as a store bought one and it isn't even anodised

 

[alexl650]

Any problem getting the jigs?

Also, I might be interested in the plastic ones.

 

[Onagoth]

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[TRG-42]

Are you sure about that? I've reviewed the ITAR regs in some detail and I don't recall coming across that. Do you have a reference?

In Part 121

121.10 "Forgings Castings and Machined Bodies clearly states this :

Articles on the U.S. Munitions List
include articles in a partially completed
state (such as forgings, castings,
extrusions and machined bodies) which
have reached a stage in manufacture
where they are clearly identifiable as
defense articles. If the end-item is an
article on the U.S. Munitions List (including
components, accessories, attachments
and parts as defined in
§ 121.8), then the particular forging,
casting, extrusion, machined body,
etc., is considered a defense article subject
to the controls of this subchapter,
except for such items as are in normal
commercial use.


I bolded and underlined the section you can't dispute . Doesn't matter its a "chuck of metal " to some people

Anyone can see even a raw AR forging is "clearly identifiable" as AR part

 

[Deuce-deuce]

How much are they worth on the Canadian market? I've got one I'd think about selling...

 

[incorrigible]

In Part 121

121.10 "Forgings Castings and Machined Bodies clearly states this :

Articles on the U.S. Munitions List
include articles in a partially completed
state (such as forgings, castings,
extrusions and machined bodies) which
have reached a stage in manufacture
where they are clearly identifiable as
defense articles. If the end-item is an
article on the U.S. Munitions List (including
components, accessories, attachments
and parts as defined in
§ 121.8), then the particular forging,
casting, extrusion, machined body,
etc., is considered a defense article subject
to the controls of this subchapter,
except for such items as are in normal
commercial use.

I wonder if this would also cover reciever flats (for an HK G3 for example)?

 

[tylerinthetub]

I see the ones dlask is selling in canada, but they dont sell the jigs to finish it. Has anyone on here finished one and is willing to share their experience?