Arg, can't decide on rings and base for rem. 700.

I've noticed that some of the US target shooters use the Leupold quick detachable rings on their target rifles, for 'any sight' competition. Scope comes off easily, irons go on, irons off, scope back on, no zero changes wit either. The base would have built in elevation, of course. Some irons mount to the scope base, some scope bases have iron sight bases on the left side.
 
Another option instead of setups we mentioned....is the Burris Zee Signature system with bushing offset kit. Roughly $60ish for the gear and you can install bushings as you need them for longer and longer ranges... They can be used with Weaver style bases......
 
I vote for Farrell. Excellent customer service, cheaper than his Canadian competition and just all around good product. I put his rail on my LE2B.
 
Would a 10 moa base be enough? It depends on the scope, how much internal adjustment is needed and how much is available. The base will give a bonus of 10 moa in addition to whatever is in the scope.
Something else to consider - its not enough to be able to crank on enough elevation to get on target. If the scope's adjustments are right at their limit, you are not using the best portion of your scope's field of view, and if the elevation is close to its limit, windage adjustment may not work as well as it would if the internal cell were a bit closer to the centre of the scope.
 
I am in the same boat. I called up Near Mfg today just a few minutes ago, and he is running off some model 700 sa lh in matte black in two weeks. Yeah they are pricy, and his rings are just off the wall, but they are nice and low and matched so nicely to the model 700's. Sorry to jack you here, but does anyone have experiance with Near Mfg's rings? I have a Mark 4 4.5-14 50mm
 
Thanks everyone for all the replies, It'll take me a while to figure things out while I absorb all this information and these recommendations!
 
TPS uses 7075 which has superior mechanical properties to 6061 aluminum. Off the top of my head, I believe the yield strength of 7075 is 2.5x that of 6061. If I remember correctly Farrell uses the 6061 T6 which is very similar to mild steel in strength.

The last time I popped over to Ken Farrell's site, I don't think he posted the grade of aluminum.....

I prefer the TPS 7075 bases over the steel counterparts.
 
### International said:
You might want to review your sources on how Farrell makes their bases. I am confident you will find they are NOT Cast Iron.

This comes from Mick McPhee, the machinist, renowned Custom Gunsmith and barrel manufacturer. I took it at face value that he knows metal and its thermal properties... He turned me onto the Farrell bases; he doesn't sell them, just works with them.
Click to expand...
 
Oddjob I dont know where you are located, but I have been in contact and picked EVERY custom manufacturer's brains. Even odd ones listed on brownells etc. and I am a lefty going to mount it on my rem model 700 short action. I have decided upon TSP for a few reasons. 1) I am left handed and its hard to find a good base (badger ordnance makes them but in 4142). 2) TPS is a good deal for their rings and bases, and when they are cnc'd depending on stress relieving they are all within 2-3/10th of a thou. 3) 7075 T6 Aluminum, which as ### stated is 2.5 ish times stronger than 6061, and for weight stronger than steel. 4) They will make it in left handed for me:). Now think of it this way. Your scope tube is made out of aluminum so the scope will be toast way before your rings and base is, and I would be more concerned about your reciever setting the scope off than any base and rings of good quality. Steel has more give than aluminum which will snap, and I dont intend on putting that sort of stress upon my whacking stick because the scope tube will go first.

ps. steel is heavy (### if you see this tps should be contacting you so I can get my stuff into canada legaly from them when they have 7075 in stock)

I hope that makes it clear.
 
yupp! When a cnc machine is set up properly with everything rigid (especially the tool post holders). It will machine within .0002 of an inch. Ofcourse only I can attain it hahaha, but on a more serious note. I looked up and most stay on the safe side and said within .0003 of an inch just to play it safe, but hell most of my mic's dont even discriminate to within .0001 of an inch. I am more worried about my receiver being that concentrick. I dont have access to a dead center or anything to see how true it is without taking my barrell off, but I am not that hardcore haha. Mills and lathes could be close to that accurate as well, but the key is in the spindle design with a round thread screw and bearings. Its way complicated and adds 30,000 on to a machine, but no backlash.

Chose wisely my son, and remember in a world of absolutes there is no perfection.
 
Last edited:
Obtunded said:
### International said:
You might want to review your sources on how Farrell makes their bases. I am confident you will find they are NOT Cast Iron.

This comes from Mick McPhee, the machinist, renowned Custom Gunsmith and barrel manufacturer. I took it at face value that he knows metal and its thermal properties... He turned me onto the Farrell bases; he doesn't sell them, just works with them.
Click to expand...


No worries. It is easy to make a mistake. All should be well...as long the final information is true and accurate!!

Regards,

Joe
Click to expand...
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom