ARMA-COAT vs DURACOAT vs all OTHER

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I know, this topic have been discussed a LOT in the past but this week, i receive a new (for me) kit from ARMA-COAT, i have used duracoat for more than 3 years and i only swear on this paint for firearm but NOW, i have try extensively this ARMA-COAT this week and all i can say is WOW (the day i receive the kit, i didn't sleep for the night sandblasting and painting all kind of stuff, baking some other and after ONLY 48 hours, using sand paper and solvent to make test on painted items)

The spec sheet show that arma-coat is littlebit more durable than duracoat, applying is as easy as duracoat (a 5 years child can do that), the service from
Barret Arms Inc is EXCELLENT but the main fact is that NOW, i will buy from a Canadian compagny.

I encourage everyone that whant to try to paint firearm or related items to give a try with ARMA-COAT, you will NOT be desapointed i'am sure and like i said before, the service from Barret Arms is FAST and VERY FRIENDLY.

For the price you will pay to refinish ONE firearm, you can be setup to refinish at least 2 or 3

their e-mail is barret@armacoat.net

again, i didn't say that other product are not good but just tell you that i have found a new shoes for my foot

respectfully

Sendero
 
Steppenwolf, No not a silly question at all,you can apply Arma-Coat to any substrate as the same for duracoat.You have to lightly blast the nickelsurface to give it a porous finish so the chemical coating can adhere to it.With these finishes they can be applied to any metal, wood or plastic that is currently out there in the firearms industry.
 
ok here is the real test ... what thickness is the coating of each ??

I know duracoat is really thin and can be applied to moving action parts....... what about armor coat ?
 
Damn you Sendero, you were the one who convinced me Duracoat was the way to go! :lol:
A few questions:
-Murdoc, can you blend specific colors for customers?
-Is it like Duracoat in that there is a seperate product for areas that will be subjected to high heat levels?
-Is it compatible with Durafill, or do you make an equivalent?
-Are hardeners or thinners manufactured for it like Duracoat?
-Do you have an instructional DVD, or are the methods identical to Duracoats (I'm a complete newbie, so I was planning on buying the Duracoat DVD when I was convinced that Duracoat was "the way" to go)
-I too am curious about the recommended pre-treatment.
I remember you offering a few trial samples for people who were experienced with Duracoating or GUn Koteing- are there any additional reviews/opinions out there from people experienced with Armacoat and other products? I was within a week or 2 of ordering Duracoat- now I have to rethink this- again! :D

Thanks in advance.
 
I got a free sample form Murdoc, It just a few more days until the 3 week cure time is up then I will give a review. I'm be testing the durability of it and it's resistance to cleaning chemicals. As this is new stuff on the market, I wasn't going to paint anything expensive with it until I could see how durable it is. So far it seems pretty good, goes on nice and thin, mix ratio of hardner to paint is leaner than duracoat, 1part hardner to 8-10 parts paint. I didn't experience any runs or globs or any other negative physical traits, it mixed like it was suppose to and went on like it was suppose to. So far so good. :D
 
RobAK,We are currently designing a high-temp coating for ATV pipes that will be able to withstand until 2000F.But we will not be offering this as a firearm finish because the cost is way too high and also there are very few full autos around in canada that need it.(Unless we get a high demand for it)We manufacture a surface filler called Arma-Fill that is similar to durafil.There are 2 types of hardeners one for each product, one for enamels and the filler and a different catalyst for the Arma-Coat Clear.We do not sell reducers because Arma-Coat is formulated at the perfect amount to allow even flow consistently.We do not have a DVD instructional video at the moment and probably never will,but things may change.As for custom colors right at the moment we could formulate it for you but you would have to buy it by the gallon,but you can take Arma-Coat stock colors and intermix them to get a custom blend yourself. As for additional reviews I have sent a demo kit to brownells on friday and sending out a new products kit to guns and ammo.But they will not get around to publishing it around the 6-8 month time frame.The pre-treatment method is parkerizing (which is optional) to give it the ultimate in corrosion protection,or you can blast it down to bare metal and coat it from there.You can also contact Garmack as I sent him a test sample of Arma-Coat,to get another opinion,but I am sure if you tried it you would not be dissappointed.
 
Steppenwolf, Degrease the object then lightly blast your surface around 50-80psi to give the object a porous finish for the coating to adhere too.You can apply Arma-Coat with any airbrush or HVLP gun.We sell aerosol assisted sprayers as kits.You get 4oz's of Arma-Coat (any color) with sprayer for $34.99 CDN.And we sell an 8oz kit too.We offer amounts ranging from 4oz's -1Gal.
 
in comparison DuraCoat dry film thickness can be varied from .25 to 1.5 mL.

Murdoc, I would love if you would get ahold of darrel marsh @ Backcountry Sporting goods in Fort St John and see if he would be willing to do a trial with your product....... he is a fairly high volume gunsmith and I know he is just getting into duracoat, maybe change his mind for him and stay canadian.

if you want a real opinion he would be the man......
 
Murdoc said:
Westicle, Arma-Coat is extremely thin 1.25 mils (millions of an inch) dry.
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Are you serious ? I'm sceptical about that......

1 coat of paint = 0.000000125 " how can that be ?

A few tenthousands is plausible but millions of an inch.........not too sure about that :shock:
 
simonyzer said:
Murdoc said:
Westicle, Arma-Coat is extremely thin 1.25 mils (millions of an inch) dry.
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Are you serious ? I'm sceptical about that......

1 coat of paint = 0.000000125 " how can that be ?

A few tenthousands is plausible but millions of an inch.........not too sure about that :shock:
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I think he means 1 and 1/4 millimetres, .000000125 would be very thin and hardly worth it :)
 
Westicle, All coatings can be varied on the amount you apply,1.25 mils is optimum.Sure I would love to send a sample to Darrel marsh do you have his email address so I can contact him?I like to see what he thinks but I know he will love it as I used to use duracoat also,I am one of two people in Canada that were actually certified by lauerweaponry and worked with steve lauer in wisconsin. And as of a little over a year and a half ago I decided to design my own product and branch out from them making a more userfriendly and slightly stronger product.And since being manufactuered here in Canada cost goes way down.
 
What about BBQ paint and header paint and engine enamels, they stand up very well in a way worse environment than a gun would see. Jet Hot coatings has a ceramic paint aswell for exhaust are any of these really different or have just the names been changed?
 
Jet hot coatings require a high temperature cure.And are excellent for automotive use,but they may be too thick,and I do not know if they sell their product as a doi-it-youself finish system. BBQ paint comes off very easy with cleaning solvents as where high performance coatings like Arma-Coat and other non-bake finishes have a very high tolerance to these corrosive agents, but if any bore solvent or the like were used on any of these finishes there would be no effect on them .Also having a high-temp cure takes out the advantage of coating wood or plastic.
 
I never tried solvents on BBQ paint but engine enamels dont seem to mind carb cleaner,varsol and engine degreasers.
 
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