at what point is a gun safe necessary?

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hi all.

at what point is a gun safe better versus locked, unloaded in their individual locked containers? or is this a personal preference?

some people like their tools in the cases they came in, some people take their tools out and put them in a special tool box, some put them in massive rolling tool cabinets, some people display them on pegboards for easy access...same idea?

thanks. lets keep the mockery to a minimum please, i've pondered this question lots :p
 
Well Candychikita
In my opinion, it is for organizing sake and also its harder to steal a large box attached to the house than it is to take a single box with one gun in it.

My guns are kept in safe that is bolted from the back and the floor. Unloaded, cleaned, oiled and trigger locked.

I like it because I have all my guns organized and I don't have to open up multiple boxes and and nothing is left out on the floor.
 
I have several safes and steel cabinets. If its not an actual "gun safe", I use trigger locks on the guns inside the locked cabinets. I have 12 trigger locks all keyed the same so if I have guns that are in the soft cases that I'm still using for hunting, everything is still locked. Funny thing about the trigger locks, a 12 year old can get into them with a paperclip, yet still meets legal requirements.
 
I use a couple high school lockers inside my locked closet, inside my locked room. Every gun is trigger locked as well. I put some rifle clips I got from work. Works great.
 
A safe isn't necessary, but it'll make it more difficult for a criminal to take your property in the event you become the victim of a crime. Criminals are too lazy to want to work at getting at whatever they're stealing.
Some safes are fire proof, rated for specific temperatures, over a specific amount of time, too. Those safes aren't cheap.
Don't store firearms in a case. They tend to keep moisture in and that causes rust.
"...use a couple..." Sad that you need locks on locks.
 
Personelly i have a hand gun safe, drilled to the wall in my room and i keep my long guns in hard cases locked in my closet. This is temporary till i can get a nice big gun safe and bolt that to the wall but there like $800 :eek: . Im going to be saving up for a while
 
sunray said:
Don't store firearms in a case. They tend to keep moisture in and that causes rust.
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That is the big thing for me. My first 870 was stored in a hard sided gun case with the foam inside. Had to oil the thing all the time or it would rust. Expecially bad when there was a big tempurature difference from outside to inside the house.
 
Everyone is organized different so what works for one will not work for the next. Easiest is one big safe with them (all the locked ug guns) all lined up and the magazines and ammo and accessories stored along side the gun inside the locked safe, but not everyone has the room or the money to buy a big enough safe to do so. and have the cases stacked neatly beside the safe, works good for me
 
IMO, it's one thing to meet or exceed the regs and another to avoid theft of your valuable property and avoid careless storage charges under paragraph 86(1) of the Criminal Code (must take reasonable precaution for the safety of others - WTF is that?). Anyway, having a safe will only delay the theft of your firearms.......but at the end of the day, having a safe will tip the balance in your favour in the eyes of law enforcement officers. Having a monitored alarm system as well is even better. IIRC, someone once said "The most expensive safe is much less expensive than the cheapest lawyer.".
 
one big advantage of a safe("approved" type) is that you can legally store 1 restricted firearm(not sure if the law states "handgun" or "restricted") with 2 loaded magazines(in the safe but separate from the gun).

I'm not sure if this has to be a dedicated safe for only one gun or not...
 
promac said:
Having a monitored alarm system as well is even better.
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And sharks with freaking laser beams......

A friend who normally stores all his f/a in his large high quaility safe was packed ready for a range trip. He had a number of restricted and non-restricted f/a properly stored in cases sitting by the front door. Ended up going out to pickup a couple things before leaving for the range. Just so happened some skid broke into his house and made off with the cases. RCMP came and took the B&E report, no unsafe storage charges. Insurance paid him out without a problem.
 
I like my safes. They started out as "gun" safes; but over the years as I've acquired more "stuff" they have become just "safes". I store my more valuable 'beverages', some of my wife's better jewellery, cameras and such in them too.
So, get a big one, or better yet, get a couple.
 
insurrecto said:
one big advantage of a safe("approved" type) is that you can legally store 1 restricted firearm(not sure if the law states "handgun" or "restricted") with 2 loaded magazines(in the safe but separate from the gun).

I'm not sure if this has to be a dedicated safe for only one gun or not...
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wrong you can store as many restricted as you can fit along with as many loaded mags as you can fit. personally i only keep one loaded mag in there for my pistol at all times, but there is no legal limit. forgive me if i'm wrong on this but unless you can show me where if says otherwise there is no limit.


and liek everyoen says. meet the minimun rules, then from there decide how far you wanna go. sharks with lazer beams are great, but i think they have to be registered and can only discharge their laser at an approved range....
 
ndb86 said:
wrong you can store as many restricted as you can fit along with as many loaded mags as you can fit. personally i only keep one loaded mag in there for my pistol at all times, but there is no legal limit. forgive me if i'm wrong on this but unless you can show me where if says otherwise there is no limit.


and liek everyoen says. meet the minimun rules, then from there decide how far you wanna go. sharks with lazer beams are great, but i think they have to be registered and can only discharge their laser at an approved range....
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There is no 'limit' to how many loaded mags you can have.. only a limit on how much the mag can hold (with certain exceptions).. as well as the overall limit on how much ammo/powder etc you can have in one place.

As for the sharks.. those are prohibited unless you get a special permit that is even harder get than a CCW... and is reserved for asshats like Wendy whom are afraid of all the guns in the world secretly wanting and desiring to be pointed in her direction :evil:
 
If you have kids....BUY A SAFE.....put all your guns in it! You can't put a price on safety when it comes to kids. Then the other reason is that when the inspections happen you know where everything is and it makes the firearms guys happy that you lock things up.
I just went through a firearms inspection and "found" stuff that I didn't remember having!
 
can14 said:
If you have kids....BUY A SAFE.....put all your guns in it! You can't put a price on safety when it comes to kids. Then the other reason is that when the inspections happen you know where everything is and it makes the firearms guys happy that you lock things up.
I just went through a firearms inspection and "found" stuff that I didn't remember having!
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A safe can be good.. but that alone is not 'safe'. Nor is someone w/o a safe necessarily less safe with their kids. My kids have been given lessons on how to be safe with a gun though none of them have access to mine w/o me. They also understand very well any access w/o permission would not be tolerated unless it is some extreme emergency.

Educating kids is the #1 way to be safe with guns. Simply locking things up is not sufficient.. nor does it do them any favors in the long run.


However in keeping with the OP.. it's a personal preference only.
 
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