AT15 UPPERS to be unveiled at Calgary Gun Show

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We have been working away making uppers that will mate seamlessly to our AT15 lowers. Made of 7075 billet they ARE heavier than any cast or forged upper, and are tighter in tolerance than any other upper.
Stay tuned for pics early next week, we are showing/selling them at the Calgary show this coming week:D
 
Just got the upper back from ano so had to put 1 together.

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We came in pretty close to budget at $425.00 with forward assist and dust cover installed.

This gun had the engraving done after black ano, we also made a run of them that the engraving was done prior to ano so they are all black and the engraving is more subdued. More photos as soon as we get some more assembled:D
 
Will they have the white lettering on them?

You have 2 options, either engraved prior to ano which means the engraving will be the same color of black as the rest of the upper, or engraved after ano is done which allows for the aluminums natural color to stand out as shown.
I will post pics of an all black 1 in the am, my camera battery died before I could get all the photos off of it.:redface:
 
Nice but I bet if you brought the price down to a more reasonable level you would sell a ton of them, just saying when a MUR can be had for 189 US.

Nice job on them!
 
Nice but I bet if you brought the price down to a more reasonable level you would sell a ton of them, just saying when a MUR can be had for 189 US.

Nice job on them!

We would love to sell them for a lot less, unfortunately the cost of materials, labor and overhead as well as what our CNC machines are capable of producing dictates that if we want to stay in business we actually should charge more. The fact is we are making a whopping 20% profit on these which is well below what any accountant will tell you is enough to stay open for business. We were hoping to be able to sell them for $400.00 or less, but there is little point in making something just to break even.

The US market has so many HUGE machine shops that will turn out parts on a contract basis there is no way to compete with the big players on price.
I spoke with a few of these shops about turning out uppers and frankly if we outsourced them to 1 of these "production shops" we could sell them for about 1/2 of what we do now. but then they would NOT be made here, just another imported item, which in my mind rather defeats the whole purpose. We could also outsource to China if the numbers were big enough for them to bother and then they would be real inexpensive but in either case they would NOT be made here, just another mass produced imported item, which in my mind rather defeats the whole purpose.

If we could sell many thousands of uppers per year it would be worth selling our $100K per machine CNC machines and buying $750K per machine CNC machines, I don't believe Canada has a big enough market to warrant that sort of investment. So we make them 1 at a time which is NOT the inexpensive way to make anything, but the quality is much higher.
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We would love to sell them for a lot less, unfortunately the cost of materials, labor and overhead as well as what our CNC machines are capable of producing dictates that if we want to stay in business we actually should charge more. The fact is we are making a whopping 20% profit on these which is well below what any accountant will tell you is enough to stay open for business. We were hoping to be able to sell them for $400.00 or less, but there is little point in making something just to break even.

The US market has so many HUGE machine shops that will turn out parts on a contract basis there is no way to compete with the big players on price.
I spoke with a few of these shops about turning out uppers and frankly if we outsourced them to 1 of these "production shops" we could sell them for about 1/2 of what we do now. but then they would NOT be made here, just another imported item, which in my mind rather defeats the whole purpose. We could also outsource to China if the numbers were big enough for them to bother and then they would be real inexpensive but in either case they would NOT be made here, just another mass produced imported item, which in my mind rather defeats the whole purpose.

If we could sell many thousands of uppers per year it would be worth selling our $100K per machine CNC machines and buying $750K per machine CNC machines, I don't believe Canada has a big enough market to warrant that sort of investment. So we make them 1 at a time which is NOT the inexpensive way to make anything, but the quality is much higher.
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Thanks for the honest answer, I wasn't dissing your upper it looks nice, I was just wondering why Vltor Mur's can be had for the price they sell them for.

Your answer explained it very well thanks for taking the time and energy making a Canadian upper.:)
 
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Thanks for the honest answer, I wasn't dissing your upper it looks nice, I was just wondering why Vltor Mur's can be had for the price they sell them for.

Your answer explained it very well thanks for taking the time and energy making a Canadian upper.:)

I did not take your question as anything negative in any way.
I KNOW we are more expensive than most and justifying why we are more expensive is important to know.

Looking at everyone who displayed AR variants at SHOT this year, the closest I could find in fit, finish and overall quality was the Les Baer, and his are priced accordingly as well.

There is a lot of great kit available in general, my goal here is to be less dependent on importation and to build the best possible.
 
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