I am current a member of a handgun club but my membership will be expired at the end of the month. I am planing not to renew my membership there because of the high membership fee and I am planning to change to another club. But the staff of the old club says that if I do so they will cancel my ATT. So my question is how can I change my ATT to be based on another club? Do I need to fill out any form? Or I can just need to make a call to change it? Or I have to ask my new club to do it? I have no idea. Please advise. Thanks.
ATT problem
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Your ATT expires when your membership expires. You will have to get the new club to apply for your ATT. A few years back I bit the bullet no pun intended and paid to become a life member of a club.
So now the ATT seems to tied to my PAL expiration date.
So now the ATT seems to tied to my PAL expiration date.
"...my new club to do it?..." Yep. New club, new ATT. You'll have to sit through their club level safety course too. Not the new club's idea. Mandated by the CPFO.
"...ATT seems to tied to my PAL expiration date..." Yep to that too. No PAL, no ATT. Your's will just be renewed by the club, but keep an eye on the date. Life memberships are unusual. Most clubs don't have 'em.
"...ATT seems to tied to my PAL expiration date..." Yep to that too. No PAL, no ATT. Your's will just be renewed by the club, but keep an eye on the date. Life memberships are unusual. Most clubs don't have 'em.
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Regulations make the club inform the CFO of the expired membership, and therefore the CFO will cancel the ATT. The club cannot cancel the ATT.
Sunray and Buck45 are correct with their comments, IMHO.
Happy Shooting.
Sunray and Buck45 are correct with their comments, IMHO.
Happy Shooting.
What? Where does it say that? Having to retake the same safety course over and over again seems more like a money grab thing at the club level. Some I know DON'T make you do it again. Some have a club orientation meeting for experienced shooters, some just take the fact that you have done the CSSA course and been issued an ATT already at other clubs as good enough.
When I joined two new clubs. I already belonged to an indoor handgun club with high fees amongst other reasons why I wanted to not renew.
Both new clubs just took me in FAST b/c I already have a valid ATT.
When I finally decided not to renew my expensive club, I just emailed the guy in charge of ATTs in the new club to switch the names to theirs. I think it basically means, the new club issues me a new ATT and the CFO cancels my old one. It took about a month so I made sure I informed my new club months in advance to change names before my original one expired.
Both new clubs just took me in FAST b/c I already have a valid ATT.
When I finally decided not to renew my expensive club, I just emailed the guy in charge of ATTs in the new club to switch the names to theirs. I think it basically means, the new club issues me a new ATT and the CFO cancels my old one. It took about a month so I made sure I informed my new club months in advance to change names before my original one expired.
In alberta you join a club then when you do the 1st transfer of the year they ask for a fax of your membership card and club address. then all done no problemo. for the rest of the year your good while doing restricted transfers. my att is good for i beleive 5 years as well. Every time i hear your stories It makes me happeier to be albertan. We don't have to deal with that extra step of beurocracy of a club. Or an 'ATT Course". My last STATT took 5 minutes on the phone and my LTATT i had to wait an hour for them to e-mail me a copy... it was SUCH a LOOOOONG wait 
Yes, obviously CFO issues it.. club applies for it... I got who does what mixed up.
Because they consider that you must be a club member to have an LtATT (I know, I know, but lets not start that argument again PLEASE!) the club in effect sponsors you. There is a "Member Club" name we've all seen on the att even though in Ont the att is usually issued as good to transport to any approved range in ontario. So if you switch clubs the CFO will have to be notified.
At some point, I'm not sure what the criteria are - possibly having a good member standing at your range, a Kind of a probationary first term at the club maybe? The ATT's are renewed and then expire on the same date as your Rpal.
My club processed my renewal and it now expires on my rpal date and it's up to me to renew after that.
At some point, I'm not sure what the criteria are - possibly having a good member standing at your range, a Kind of a probationary first term at the club maybe? The ATT's are renewed and then expire on the same date as your Rpal.
My club processed my renewal and it now expires on my rpal date and it's up to me to renew after that.
Good to hear that your ATT expiries on your RPAL date. I understand everything you said except the last line.
Since you are in Ontario as me, how did it become your responsibility to renew? I don't get. lol
Technically, it's always our responsibility to renew. Just in certain cases the club does it in order to add their endorsement. I'm guessing that's the reason. Maybe to prove membership since as far as the cfo is concerned transport to a club is the only reason for needing an att (I know, gunsmith etc. we're talking LTatt's). Our responsibility is to make sure the application gets to club execs so it can be sent on from them for example. But I think it's all club policy for whatever club you're with.
My first year in this club was up and apparently all member att's expired this month. So the club processed all att renewals (that were applied for anyway). I recieved my new att in an envelope from the club with a letter noting that it now expires with my rpal (excepting any revokation of course) and at that time the renewal will be my responsibility. I don't have the letter with me to give the wording but I was a little surprised at that as well. My expiry is 3 years or so away.
I expect it is possibly the clubs discretion to do this. I don't think it's a legal requirement that the club processes the renewal because afterall, we can always apply for them ourselves anyway. So I think it's whatever your club policy is and apparently mine wants you to handle your own att after the first year. I guess the first year is like a probationary period to make sure there are no safety complaints etc against you.
In the end, you don't need an att to own restricteds only to transport them. There is no legal requirement that I know of for a club to apply for, or to process your att. Club policy maybe, legal -no.
(once again I ask that people don't go into the tired argument about not needing an att to own etc. Just deal with the OP)
Coming from a Manitoban's perspective - why has there not been major complaints from the clubs about the ONT CFO shirking it's duties and responsibilities and putting the job and responsibility of the ATT "application" onto the clubs? This creates a lot of extra work for all club executives, when really, the club should have nothing to do with ATT's besides saying - yeup, here are our records as required of who shot when, and their standing with the club. It is up to the CFO to investigate if it has a problem. and it is the CFO's responsibility to issue (or not issue as it deems) ATT.
I go to a club that has life memberships. But God only knows if I'll even be living there in 5 years.
