ATV second rider seats that strap on the back rack

No, 2-up machines are not legal in Ontario (at least on pubic roadways/land). Whether it's a "factory" 2-up or just a 1-up that you put an aftermarket "back seat" on.

Can't find the exact section of the HTA right now, but if you search these forums (kinda like GunNutz but for ATVnutz!) you'll find lots of info:

http://www.mudhole.ca/

TheFrog
 
I know in Manitoba 2ups are legal provided they are designed to be operated that way by the manufacturer...add-a-seat 2ups are not legal.

I'm surprised that Ontario would not allow factory 2ups, what would be the reason for that you think?

(I know, I know...there probably isn't a reason....)
 
[h=1]Found this :http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/pubs/atv/two-up-ATVs.shtml

Smart Ride Safe Ride[/h] [h=2]Two-Up ATVs[/h]
two-up.jpg

[h=3]Vehicle Information[/h]
  • A two-up ATV is a type of off-road vehicle that has four wheels, steering handlebars, a driver’s seat and a passenger seat directly behind the driver.
    Note: a single rider ATV that has been modified to carry a passenger by installing an after-market seat and foot pegs is not considered to be a two-up ATV.
  • A two-up ATV must be registered and display a rear licence plate. It must also be insured under a motor vehicle liability policy.
  • A two-up ATV is prohibited from provincial highways and municipal roads, even if the driver is not carrying a passenger.
  • A two-up ATV can be driven directly across a highway (where permitted), if the driver is 16 years of age and holds a valid driver’s licence. For a list of highways in Ontario that off-road vehicles are prohibited from crossing, please refer to the Off-Road Vehicles Act, Ontario Regulation 863, Schedule 1. You may check online at: e-laws.gov.on.ca
[h=3]Driver Information[/h]
  • The driver must be at least 12 years of age unless they are under the direct supervision of an adult.
  • The driver and passenger must wear an approved motorcycle helmet that is securely fastened under the chin with a chin strap.
  • The driver must carry the two-up ATV’s registration permit or a true copy.
 
More?
http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/pubs/atv/off-on-road-riding.shtml

[h=2]Off-Road On-Road Riding[/h]
[h=3]Off-Road Riding[/h] [h=4]Vehicle Information[/h]
  • An ATV must be registered and display a rear licence plate except in exempt areas such as far northern Ontario. It must also be insured under a motor vehicle liability policy.
[h=4]Driver Information[/h]
  • The driver must be at least 12 years of age unless they are under the direct supervision of an adult.
  • The driver must carry the ATV’s registration permit or a true copy.
  • The driver and passenger must wear an approved motorcycle helmet that is securely fastened under the chin with a chin strap.
  • The driver can directly cross a highway where permitted, if they are at least 16 years old and hold a valid driver’s licence.
For a list of highways in Ontario where ORVs are prohibited from crossing, please check the Off-Road Vehicles Act, Ontario Regulation 863, Schedule 1. You may check online at: e-laws.gov.on.ca
[h=3]On-Road Riding[/h] Passengers are prohibited from riding on an ATV that is being driven on a road.
[h=4]Vehicle Information[/h]
  • As described in the “Off-Road Riding” section, an ATV must be registered and insured.
  • An ATV that weighs 450 kilograms or less and has an overall width not greater that 1.35 m (excluding mirrors) may travel along some provincial highways and on municipal roads, only if the municipality has a bylaw permitting their use.
  • An ATV is allowed to travel on Highways 500 to 899, 7000 series highways and highways with low traffic volumes, but is prohibited from traveling on 400 series highways, the Queen Elizabeth Way, and sections of the Trans-Canada Highway.
For a complete list of highways where ATVs are permitted or prohibited, please refer to Highway Traffic Act Regulation 316/03. You may check online at: e-laws.gov.on.ca
[h=4]Driver Information[/h] The ATV driver must:

  • be at least 16 years of age and hold a valid G2 or M2 licence or greater; wear an approved motorcycle helmet that is securely fastened under the chin with a chin strap;and
  • travel at speeds that are less than the posted speed limit as outlined below.
[h=4]Speed and Rules of the Road[/h]
  • 20 km/h is the maximum speed an ATV can travel on roads with a posted speed limit of 50 km/h or less.
  • 50 km/h is the maximum speed an ATV can travel on roads with a posted speed limit of more than 50 km/h.
  • Municipalities may set lower speed limits or additional rules for ATVs.
  • An ATV must be driven in the same direction as traffic and travel on the shoulder of the road. If the shoulder is unsafe or impassable, the ATV can be driven on the travelled portion of the road.
  • An ATV travelling along a road must have its headlights and tail lights on.
 
I had to figure all this out this past Summer. So, to summarize and confuse the above, in Ontario:
- You can drive a single-person, 4-wheels on the road, plated, registered, and insured, if you have a car DL,
- If your township has a bylaw permitting their use on secondary roads (not County roads, which sucks, as I have 300m of county road to get to miles of secondary),
- you cannot have a passenger on board while on the roads, or while crossing the roads,
- factory-designed two-ups, with linger wheelbases, and much safer than DIY 2-ups, are not permitted on roads due to my first point (the laws will catch up, but very slowly)
- No UTVs on roads

Check your bylaws - around me, I can ride on the secondary roads until official dark (sunset + 30 minutes), which sounds reasonable until you realize that you'd actually be hunting until seconds before that (enough time to unload and sock your firearm), so if you arrived by ATV, the b@stards are stealing the best last minutes of the hunt from you, by making you get home before last light.

The 2-up seats are legal to own (if not on private land, check the trail operator, etc, regs), though nobody will recommend them (I've got one), just be aware that the centre of balance is far rearward with a second adult, so no hills, and watch the acceleration, as you should be golden.

On crown land, if on a trail organization's trail, you must have a trail pass UNLESS you're hunting (that land is shared, and hunters have a right to hunt, just as the trail clubs have a right to put a trail in). So, the 3-4 times a yea I'm out there, I have a shotgun in the scabbard, rather than pay the huge trail permit (of course, if I ever catch the trail-riding bug, I'll certainly get a permit.
 
Legal or not , I have one and don't like it. Even though the passenger has a more comfortable place to sit, the design of the thing takes a major decrease of storage and the size of the items it can hold. I have several machines and the only time I double is when one breaks down or I give a short ride to the passenger. You're better off with a medium size box that holds more, yet doesn't intrude on the actual seat space.
 
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