Auto Ordnance M1 Carbine
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I have one that I just purchased recently. I have only shot it so far at 25 metres. Accuracy hasn't been my main concern. So far I have had numerous failure-to-feed incidents. The feed ramp is catching the bullet just as it comes out of the mag. I have been using 600 paper on the ramp. I went to the range today and it seemed to feed better but I still had a few FTFs. More 600 paper, maybe Dremel. I may also have to bed the action. I can feel it move when I squeeze the trigger. Magazine fit in mag well is also poor. On the plus side the Walnut stock is superb.
I'm not unhappy to have bought it I'm just surprised at the quality for what I paid. Fortunately I don't mind fiddling around with it but this is the kind of thing you'd expect from a Norinco and even those are usually good shooters out of the box.
I'm not unhappy to have bought it I'm just surprised at the quality for what I paid. Fortunately I don't mind fiddling around with it but this is the kind of thing you'd expect from a Norinco and even those are usually good shooters out of the box.
I bought mine at Ellwood Epps. I just noticed on another thread that P&D (sponsor listed above) says they have them.
- Location
- Niagara Region, Ontario. For now
Don't expect much help from North Sylva with these issues either.
Sad to hear they are full of issues.
Sad to hear they are full of issues.
The main problem I had with mine, was Failure To Feed. Mine too was getting hung up on the feed ramp, no matter what kind of ammunition I tried or what magazine (surplus, aftermarket or factory) I used. I compared the AO receiver feed ramps to my Rockola and found The AO to be narrower (not as close to the edges) and at a steeper angle. So out came the rotary tool on my brand new rifle and reshaped the ramps. It now feeds with no issues 99% of the time, the other 1% it doesn't strip a round from the mag.; but it only happens with my cheap aftermarket mags. I've stretched the springs and they are better.
The other issue was that I couldn't get the barrel band tight and the hand guard would slide around (forward and backwards), but a shim under the band fixed this.
The mag does not go into the well very easily either, but after inserting and removing a ton of time it's getting better.
Should I need to do this for a $875.00 rifle? Definetly not.
Do I regret buying this gun? Definetly not.
The other issue was that I couldn't get the barrel band tight and the hand guard would slide around (forward and backwards), but a shim under the band fixed this.
The mag does not go into the well very easily either, but after inserting and removing a ton of time it's getting better.
Should I need to do this for a $875.00 rifle? Definetly not.
Do I regret buying this gun? Definetly not.
From what I can piece together, some of the issues are from the break-in period, when the parts are rough, others have to do with the age-old conundrum of magazine compatibility.
The old universals were known to have the same problem.
The old universals were known to have the same problem.
Hey guys, i bought one and had the same problems as well. The failure to feed issue was solved by dremeling the feed ramp ever so slightly. What i noticed was the stuck rounds were leaving a mark on the feed ramp showing where to dremel. After this i no longer had feed problems. The next thing i did was replace the slide spring with a USGI one and noticed a marked improvement in feed. The mag issue was solved for me by replacing the mag button with a USGI one and now the mags fit in much easier. As for the loose wobbling fit in the stock i replaced the recoil pad again with a USGI one, at first glance they look identical in shape/size, but once i placed the USGI recoil pad this reduced the loose fit. I even went further and replaced the type 1 barrel band with....you got it a USGI type 3 barrel band and the weapon is tight and not loose. Its a lot to do, and not everyone can get USGI parts easily but i am not disapointed in this Carbine. I have fired about 400 rds through it now and since the replacement of parts you can feel the difference in performance for the better.
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Just remember if you dremel the feed ramp this will void the warranty from Kahr arms. I have read from other forums about people shipping their carbines back to Kahr arms to fix feed issues only to have it return fixed in some cases but in others nothing seems to have been done. In all cases there was a long wait. I decided to screw it and fix it myself rather than go through the hoops of shipping and waiting, to each his own.
Great feedback from everybody. I'm with UCSPanther and think I'll pick one up. I like fixing things
Even with the FTF problems what ammo seems to work best out of what's been tried.
