Automattenfett. How to use it right?

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I have a K31 and its cleaning kit which contains two containers of automattenfett (grease). How does one use this properly? My K31 has a great bore, no doubt due to the use of this stuff, and I want to keep it that way.

The online manual I found from the swissarms website doesn't explain HOW to use the grease. Please help!

PS- is this stuff suitable on semi-auto rifles such as the M-14 and clones?

Thanks!
 
Pretty sure it's for greasing the action. No point putting it down the bore. After cleaning the bore, put a generous amount of oil down there on a swab, then put a dry one through before the next time you shoot.
 
I'm sure Diopter will chime in...

If I remember well, they use the grease to clean the bore and for storage as well.

For me Automattenfett is like RedHot, I put that *####* on everything !
I really like that grease. It also give the blue a nice rich dark color.
 
Grease the points of contact on the bolt and action. Grease the patch with it and swab the bore. Leave the grease in the bore. Next time at the range before shooting swipe the grease out from the bore and fire away. Repeat the above after shooting.
Note:
Above is done in Switzerland. We are not there.
In Canada clean as one would clean any other rifle whichever routine works.
 
Grease the points of contact on the bolt and action. Grease the patch with it and swab the bore. Leave the grease in the bore. Next time at the range before shooting swipe the grease out from the bore and fire away. Repeat the above after shooting.
Note:
Above is done in Switzerland. We are not there.
In Canada clean as one would clean any other rifle whichever routine works.

Yeah but i'm this grease is one of the reason these rifles still so good.
 
Do not "clean as you would any gun in canada". Follow what the swiss did and you will have one of the very few sub moa Milsurps for years to come. These rifles are what they are because of their cleaning and storage process.
 
It's in here............. this, and many more like it will soon be a part of this page. ........................Written by Guisan:

The grease is used for three purposes being cleaning, lubricating and protecting and the last can be divided in normal use and storage.

To start with the cleaning first, before shooting the Swiss run a pad through the bore to clean out the grease there and from the bolt face, they do that with the help of a grease rod, that ones comes with a jag for a pad and a black grease brush.
Immediately after shooting they run that black brush with Automatenfett through the still hot bore, put some grease on the bolt face and leave it like that. After they get home they clean it all from the grease, get a bore rope or cleaning brush through the bore and after that they lube it all again with fresh grease that stays on till the next shooting match.
The grease dissolves the fouling and makes cleaning way more easy as using oil.

Lubricating during normal use is only done on few spots, the most important ones are the flat (or round with the older straight pulls) inside receiver sliding part of the operating rod and the tip of the operating rod where it enters the bolt sleeve groove, that area needs to be lubed well.
There should be no grease inside the bolt or at the outside but it won't hurt to use a tiny bit in the locking nut area.
Do not use too much grease, the manual reads for the K31 "battle lubricating"......NONE , so the above is only to make your rifle operate more smoothly with less wear, after all the shooting range is no battle field.

The protecting part is easy, Automatenfett can be used on bare metal to protect it against corrosion, use it limited especially on moving parts as we don't want sand to stick to these.

For storage, the -"Parkdienstschmierung" as they say there- it's easy also;
Barrel inside and outside, greased
Chamber, greased
Trigger assembly, inside bolt and hammer piece, NO grease (still the arsenals did not follow that rule that well as examples show)
Bare metal parts, greased
Blued parts, greased

The storage part is the reason why so many new owners of K31's in the USA think that they are in Cosmoline which is not the case, when they have been in storage in Swiss arsenals for a long time they are still well protected by the old yellow Waffenfett, the more recent ones are well protected by black Automatenfett.

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Originally written by my Dad...................................................................................................................
So your rifle came to you in the usual condition of the k31. Stock a bit beat up but with most of the metal finish intact and sharp, shiney lands and grooves, and you intend to keep it that way.
Stop and think about this. The rifle came to you in the condition in which the Swiss soldier and Armoury kept it for many years. Is it not then a reasonable assumption that you'd follow the same maintenance ritual that has kept it in that condition for so many years? Maybe, but the average American shooter believes strongly in all of the advertising hype and testimonials to a myriad of maintenance products deemed absolutely necessary to keep a rifle as pristine as possible, few of which are factually relevant to the k31 barrel.

This was written by my Dad quite a few years ago.

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The Armoury and the well instructed Swiss soldier used a product called Waffenfett, or weapon grease. A close and reasonable approximation in the US is Lubriplate 930. The barrel is swabbed with 930, running a patch back and forth followed by a dry patch. At the end of the shooting session while the barrel is still hot or warm, the lubriplate is worked back into the barrel and left that way until the next shooting session when a dry patch is run back through removing the excess lubriplate. That's it. If carbon in the throat and chamber become an issue from firing reloads, use a good carbon remover such as Montana Extreme, but leave the bore alone. It is a fact that excessive bore cleaning with brushes can and will shorten your barrel life.

If, by shooting reloaded cartridges utilizing copper jacketed projectiles, your bore shows copper fouling, use a product such as WipeOut to remove it. This kind of a product fulfills it's task without continual scrubbing of the bore.

This may sound like an overly simple approach, and the typical US shooter is usually a ready recipient of industry marketing efforts and barrel maintenance, but use this logic. My 50+ year old rifle came to me with a truly amazing bore. Why would I not then follow the maintenance practices of the Armoury and Soldier that delivered it to me in this condition?
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Latigo
 
Let's not compare humidity in mountainous Switzerland which is around 2-3 km above sea level on average, and land locked. with Canadian climate. What causes corrosion? Humidity. What causes rust in your bores? carbon and combustion byproducts with moisture.
When in rome do as romans do.
When in Switzerland, clean as swiss would do.
When in Canada, clean the way which works. ie use products that work for you in other rifles.
If waffenfet/automatenfet works for you by no means.
 
Automatenfett was DESIGNED for semi-auto and fully automatic firearms - the black stuff in it is molybdenum disulphide. The earlier waffenfett is like most other high quality light greases that are animal-derived, rather than hydrocarbon. I've been using it and similar stuff on my Swiss guns since 1989, and they are in no way any different down the bore from the day I bought them, as a result of using the same régime as that posted by Latigo. BTW, he probably has around a hundred or more of them...

So, our dearly-loved and much-missed friend Guisan tells you the word.

Go forth and do likewise.

tac
swissrifles.com

PS - Apart from waffenfett, my secret grease, since I live in yUK where Lubriplate is not sold, is Shakespeare spinning reel grease. I lucked into a ten pound can of the stuff when a local fishing tackle store was closing down - best ten bucks I ever spent on gun-cleaning stuff.
 
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As to how the Swiss Grease their bores:

Nylon bristle bore brush dipped into can of grease.
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Idea is to coat chamber and bore with a light layer of grease, not to plug it up, but seal it off from air for rust and tarnish prevention.
Also prevents the carbon from hardening up and causing a dark bore. Need 3 or 4 passes with 90° turn per pass to evenly coat bore.
Grease does not dry up nearly as quickly or run down with gravity and pool like oil does.

The Swiss rod attachment pictured above allows the nylon brush or a brass brush to be screwed into the tip of a brass jag used for patches.

Patch is rolled diagonally over the jag and is used to push out the grease before firing
There have been cases of people forgetting to clean off the grease which raises a cheer from the assembled Swiss shooters since they all get a beer paid by Herr. Forgetfull. No harm is done to the rifle and this occurrence is called a "Fettschuss", greaseshot.
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The ones piece Swiss rifle rods are not easy to find here buy the Stgw57 segmented rods kits are.

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Threading is metric, so U.S. and Imperial attachments are not interchangeable.

A Swiss supplier, website in german or French.
http://shop.kuert.ch/fr/reinigungsmaterial.html?___from_store=de
 
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