B&T APC 9mm SMG Glock Lower and APC 308

[greentips]

B&T APC has been around for years and there had noises about a glock magazine compatible lower. bAfter all these years the Glock magazine compatible lower is finally real. Currently B&T USA has only 6 of these. For whatever reasons, B&T in the US decides the lower is an accessory and needs to be purchased separately. I certainly hope Canada will get the Glock Mag version directly from Switzerland as a complete unit. No one really needs two lowers.





APC 308 is also displayed along with a parade of the already well known APC 223, and they are now M-lokerized. The interesting one is the 18" DMR version with an adjustable stock spotted with a cheek piece. This is the missing place that makes APC work with optic. Somehow B&T doesn't realize in the beginning all the rail space on the handguard is not useful for LAD or switches if they have to mount optic so low such that their low cheek height folding stock can work properly for normal human beings. The BUIS they put on show guns are definitely not even close to being co-witnessable. Perhaps they need to redesign the stock so that it folds left like the SIG MCX so the cheek height can be made much higher.







And the bonus piece, the UTMish Glock Adaptor.

 

[bfiles]

Oh man I like the looks of that UTM Glock chassis

 

[shatthatkilledelvis]

apc9 w/glock lower please

 

[greentips]

apc9 w/glock lower please

I concur.

 

[pc9]

apc9 w/glock lower please

I have been talking with Wolverine Supplies for about 6 months now about this. Looks like it needs approval from our overlords at the RCMP.

 

[pc9]

Als waiting for the GHM9 in Glock mag

 

[ryroru]

Did they give a projected MSRP for the apc 308? Or is this one of those if you have to ask you cant afford it type things.

 

[JasonGTA]

The apc 308 looks very interesting!

 

[Karnage]

Once the Glock lower APC 9 lands I can round out my B&T sub collection. Can't wait!

 

[saskcop]

I can only imagine he price on that 308 .

 

[Tinytitan]

hi yes take my money.

 

[twyeh]

This has my attention, Wolverine get on it!

 

[rambones]

Sucks that's they need a new frt. Hopefully they can bring in spare lowers and sold as accessories sooner. This is one gun I am hoping to get as soon as they are available

 

[Bartok5]

The APC9 Glock mag Lower Reciver from B+T USA will be of no use to Canadians, as the APC Upper and Lower Receivers on the Canadian-designated guns cannot be separated. Canadian gunnies will have to buy a complete APC (or GHM) in the magazine style of their choosing. I had plenty of mags for my TP9 already on-hand, so was happy to buy my APC9 in that same mag format. I couldn't honestly care less about Glock mag compatibility, but hey - whatever floats your boats is fine by me. The APC9 doesn't disappoint, regardless of its feeding device!

 

[chillyrabbit]

The APC9 Glock mag Lower Reciver from B+T USA will be of no use to Canadians, as the APC Upper and Lower Receivers on the Canadian-designated guns cannot be separated. Canadian gunnies will have to buy a complete APC (or GHM) in the magazine style of their choosing. I had plenty of mags for my TP9 already on-hand, so was happy to buy my APC9 in that same mag format. I couldn't honestly care less about Glock mag compatibility, but hey - whatever floats your boats is fine by me. The APC9 doesn't disappoint, regardless of its feeding device!

wait why can't they be separated, how would you clean the gun?

 

[Bartok5]

wait why can't they be separated, how would you clean the gun?

The Upper and Lower Receivers hinge at the permanently-affixed Front Pin, just like an AR. Cleaning is only marginally more awkward than it would be if the Receivers fully separated as originally designed.

 

[rambones]

The Upper and Lower Receivers hinge at the permanently-affixed Front Pin, just like an AR. Cleaning is only marginally more awkward than it would be if the Receivers fully separated as originally designed.

I heard the GHM9 which uses the same lower as the APC9 is removable. What would be the legality of modifing the gun to accept a Glock lower that was imported separately?

 

[Bartok5]

I heard the GHM9 which uses the same lower as the APC9 is removable. What would be the legality of modifing the gun to accept a Glock lower that was imported separately?

Where is the Serial Number located on the GHM9? If it is on the Lower Receiver, then you would be dealing with two separate "firearms". If the S/N is on the Upper Receiver and if the Front Pin is removable as you say, then you would be good to go having multiple Lower Receivers as they would be considered uncontrolled "parts" just like AR Upper Receivers are. However, if the Front Pin on a GHM9 is permanently-affixed as it is on the APC223 and the APC9, then you are S.O.L. for multiple, swap-able Lower Receivers.

 

[Arm&Gun]

I had a ghm9 and confirmed. The lower is removable. It was not on my apc223.

I'm going to be all over these when they arrive. Still undecided on the 308. I want the sbr, but the full length gun looks great too.

 

[restless]

Als waiting for the GHM9 in Glock mag

Yep. Definitely looking forward to these too