B&T APC223 Black Rifle Prototype.

[Kevin M.]

Just figured you guys would like this, I sure do.... shamelessly stolen from the firearm blog.

Brugger & Thomet (B&T) has developed a prototype .223 Remington version of their APC9 submachine gun. We don’t have any specs on the gun, but we can see from the photos that it uses AR-15 magazines, has fully ambidextrous controls, a left/right swappable charging handle and a folding stock.

 

[Ar180shooter]

Nice! Based on my thoughts from the TP9 I got to try, I would be in for one of those.

 

[lawn gnome]

Outstanding.

 

[Jamie]

like the XCR,ACR,Scar the front handguard/rail is way to short

 

[fnrob]

Nice!

 

[-[Crosshair]-]

Another company jumps on the bandwagon! Looks the same as all the other "new" rifles out there. Nobody's making any real new rifles anymore and that's a damn shame.

 

[my_2_cents]

like the XCR,ACR,Scar the front handguard/rail is way to short

I disagree, I only need about 7 rail slots to mount my light on the side at the front, bottom rail I used an AFG2, and there is plenty of length on this rifle for both of those.

 

[Trinimon]

Sweet. I likey.

 

[tootall]

Are these photos from the IWA show going on right now?

 

[Kevin M.]

Are these photos from the IWA show going on right now?

Yes, I believe that is correct.

 

[TV-PressPass]

Pretty cool!

But . . . didn't wolverine try to import the APC-9?

IIRC it wound up with a prohibited classification? I just barely remember hearing that the result was not-good-for-me-buying-one.

 

[MarkArma180]

Sweet looking rig

 

[8 ball]

Would look good next to my TP9.

 

[lone-wolf]

Interesting indeed.

 

[Jamie]

I disagree, I only need about 7 rail slots to mount my light on the side at the front, bottom rail I used an AFG2, and there is plenty of length on this rifle for both of those.

I run my light off the top rail and no vert/AFG I like to get my hand out forward as i can I also like have my light as close to the muzzle as i can

 

[CNADNSL8-5]

Pretty cool!

But . . . didn't wolverine try to import the APC-9?

IIRC it wound up with a prohibited classification? I just barely remember hearing that the result was not-good-for-me-buying-one.

I believe you are correct. B&T would need to redesign a dedicated auto only. I believe this is stated in the Wolverine forum somewhere.

 

[the_klenzer]

Looks like more of the same (really reminds me of the XCR) to me... not ###y enough to do anything for me on looks alone. Not innovative enough to make me want it.

Ok, yeah fine, I still want it.

 

[Ar180shooter]

like the XCR,ACR,Scar the front handguard/rail is way to short

Look at the screws holding the front handgard in place... I'm thinking modular system with 3 barrel/handguard lengths. The one pictured is probably the midlength, with CQB/DMR length handguards and barrels.

 

[Mr Wolverine]

I believe you are correct. B&T would need to redesign a dedicated auto only. I believe this is stated in the Wolverine forum somewhere.

We are still working on this, don,t give up yet.

 

[Armedsask]

I believe you are correct. B&T would need to redesign a dedicated auto only. I believe this is stated in the Wolverine forum somewhere.

I can't see it being that hard. Look at the 858's. Just weld a block in.