backpacker .22's

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There seems to be a variety of ''backpacker'' type .22's-divided between take downs and folders-what would your choice be -with the criteria of accuracy,decent trigger, weight,short barrel and ease of operation be?
Potting grouse is the objective-something lightweight and easy to carry along with a bigger rifle when deer,bear/ moose hunting
 
... One that comes to mind, is the Armalite AR7 .... folds into it's own stock and floats. Not exactly bench rest accuracy, but it works ! Now made, I think, by HENRY ARMS. .... David K.
 
I think that Wrong Way has the right idea with low loads for grouse. It is easier to load them for standard calibers rather than magnums. You can use either cast bullets (try Bullet Barn) or plinkers (.308 Hornady and Speer). Check out the reloading manuals for powder charges.

I had an AR7 many years ago and I was disappointed in its accuarcy and functioning.
 
this may be a dumb question , but since they make 22 ''shot shells''is it feasable to load ,say a 308,or 303 with ''shot'' for potting a grouse[rather than blowing them to smithereens]has anybody tried thisand if so-what are the results-range etc
 
you can make shot loads for most centerfire cartidges usint a reversed gas check to hold the shot in. The straight walled cartridges seem to work best (.444 Marlin. .45-70) but the rifling tends to spread out the small shot charge very quickly giving you a range of 15 feet at most with lots of holes.
 
I used to carry a Browning Take Down semi-auto .22 in the front box of my quad.....killede a lot of grouse with it while travelling to the blind hunting moose/deer.....
 
ratherbefishin said:
this may be a dumb question , but since they make 22 ''shot shells''is it feasable to load ,say a 308,or 303 with ''shot'' for potting a grouse[rather than blowing them to smithereens]has anybody tried thisand if so-what are the results-range etc

You can get rifle adaptors for many common callibers to let them shoot .22's or small pistol rounds.
 
Butler Creek makes a take down system for the ruger 10/22. :D

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The henry minibolt,very light accurate reliable compact and quick to put into action . No pieces to lose or fight with.Second choice would be marlin papoose. The AR-7 is not the quality they used to be imo.
 
If you use a rimfire an accurate folding/takedown model is the best idea. I wouldn't want any compact .22 for grouse that does anything less then hitting a dime at 25 yards. If you want a compact gun for grouse why not a Backpacker .410 with a 12" Barrel ?
 
K98 said:
If you use a rimfire an accurate folding/takedown model is the best idea. I wouldn't want any compact .22 for grouse that does anything less then hitting a dime at 25 yards. If you want a compact gun for grouse why not a Backpacker .410 with a 12" Barrel ?

Because you want to be capable of hitting them at 25M just as you said....the 12" 410 backpackers are useless IMHO.....
 
Papoose

Another option is the Marlin Papoose. There is a Stainless steel one for sale in the classified section.

(No connection, just FYI)
 
I'll spool up my broken record again..
Springfield M6 Scout. 4lb combo gun O/U .410/.22, SS or park'd, holds spare ammo in the buttstock, and folds for storage/carry (there was a cool belt-bag for it that hung down to your knees) It's discontinued, but there's a few around. I've had mine for a few years now, and it's so handy, it's on my no-way-I-would-ever-sell list. They're fugly, but functional. I shoot stood-up brass offhand at 20 yds with the .22 no-problem. Read all about it at V-shrake's M6 page: The M6 Survival System by V Shrake
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I just recieved a chamber adapter for my .308 from http://www.mcace.com/ it allows me to shoot .32 ACP in my M-14. It's a bit quieter than most .22 loads, and quite accurate. At -30 C (I was shivering) resting on my car, it shot a 2" group at 40 yards. That's smaller than a grouse body, and I have never taken a grouse up here past 40 yards. I'm excited to see what kind of damage it will cause to the meat. 71gr fmj round nose. They are going so slow once they get out of the rifle I figure they won't damage the meat too much.

I'll let you know

Nic
 
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I saw one of those get bought yesterday at a local gunstore, it was black parked...very interesting little rifles.

Another would be the Garcia Bronco takedown rifle.

Or as mentioned before simply make up reduced loads for ones deer rifle.
 
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