BAD lever on the SLR

What administrative actions? Not many people point a rifle and write a grocery list. Also that would mean your ambidextrious since you can write with your left and shoot with your right. Negating the 'benefit' of the BAD lever...

You dont write your grocery lists with a rifle in hand? Obviously you're doing something wrong
 
I think the BAD lever is great, it's easier to use than it looks. I've only refrained from getting one myself because in my opinion, it's not an organic look for the rifle. I feel the same way about grip pods; they work fine, but detract from the LCF.
 
As a south paw I love the BAD, and all ambi control parts. I'm sure every piece of gear can have its downsides if not used or maintained properly. To each their own
 
I used the Phase 5 on mine and now on the modern sporter.
Dont think I even tried my bad lever on my SLR so I cannot really comment on fit and function. I like how the bad lever is more rounded on the tip but the Phase 5 fits better with little to no wiggle.
To each their own, if you want to use one, use it. Any ND or issues with them are a lack of training and repetition in my opinion. I think they are useful so I use them, just make sure you train to use it and as normal keep your booger hook off the bang button until needed.
 
Are BAD levers standard equipment on Mil/ LE issue rifles?

Probably not, but I don't think the adoption or avoidance of an item by government bean counters is a good litmus test for whether something is useful or not.

What administrative actions? Not many people point a rifle and write a grocery list. Also that would mean your ambidextrious since you can write with your left and shoot with your right. Negating the 'benefit' of the BAD lever...

Phase 3 malfunctions are a great example of an administrative action made easier by a BAD lever. Anything requiring you to lock the bolt to the rear will be made easier with a BAD lever, and keeps your strong side hand where it needs to be on the rifle.

I run Phase 5 on my SLR. Liked it so much I started to add it to my other guns in place of the Magpl BAD lever.

I originally tried one of these, but it was causing my rifle not to lock back on the last round, so I swapped it for the Magpul version instead. I couldn't say why it happened, but it did.

It’s simple....keep your finger out of the trigger guard period and nothing bad will happen, but this bling add on goes against all common sense and training by forcing a shooter to go against everything natural.

In the heat of competition many things can and have happened by forcing you to do something wrong.

As the saying goes “Quit f@cking with God and Eugene”

Again, I think that's a training issue. Your finger should be bladed along the side of the receiver until you're committed to your shot; if someone's finger is in there prior to that then it's their fault, not the BAD lever's.
 
I'll just leave this here
lame video of Clint Smith

Yeah, Clint is very old and outdated. Great anecdotal stories and quotes but far from cutting edge.

Having anything else in the trigger guard other than the trigger can lead to swear words- Confucius II

True.

That's not the only reason to use one. They also allow you to perform administrative actions while keeping your strong side hand on the fire control group

Did the BAD lever pull the trigger? I've never seen a BAD lever pull the trigger on a firearm before; that's crazy.

So locking the bolt to the rear because your franken gun(and mags) is a POS and likes to double feed or fail to extract, got it. Although I will add that there are other devices that allow you to lock the bolt to the rear without putting your finger inside the trigger guard.

https://www.redi-mag.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=61
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NA8fkV5cI4&t=52s

A much safer method, and one that doesn't mix admin movements with firing the rifle. Removing the magazine is pretty standard for most complex malfunctions so maintaining pressure on the mag release while manipulating the bolt to the rear(in an effort to lock it open) makes perfect sense. What's really nice is that should the S spring fail, your rifle simply works as originally designed, no loss of other functions.

This is turning into a 9mm vs. .45, muzzle brake vs. flash hider or Glock vs. CZ debate.

There is no right answer here. I personally don't use one but many people do and love it. If you like it and run it well, fill your boots!

There is a right answer. 9mm, Glock, and whatever muzzle device offers the most performance gain.
 
Probably not, but I don't think the adoption or avoidance of an item by government bean counters is a good litmus test for whether something is useful or not.



Phase 3 malfunctions are a great example of an administrative action made easier by a BAD lever. Anything requiring you to lock the bolt to the rear will be made easier with a BAD lever, and keeps your strong side hand where it needs to be on the rifle.



I originally tried one of these, but it was causing my rifle not to lock back on the last round, so I swapped it for the Magpul version instead. I couldn't say why it happened, but it did.



Again, I think that's a training issue. Your finger should be bladed along the side of the receiver until you're committed to your shot; if someone's finger is in there prior to that then it's their fault, not the BAD lever's.

If a Highly trained special force guy like Haley can have an ND then anybody can. Nothing else in the trigger guard it’s very simple.
 
I run a BAD on my comp gun.

It has never caused a malfunction on my rifle.

I have ONCE set off a round I did not intend because of it though. Luckly it was a service rifle match and we got the command to start shooting and I sent the round down range and on target (Barely). It did go off cause my finger slipped off and then slapped the trigger.

With that being said I adjusted how I manipulate it and I dont think it would happen again. But I DID have to change my methods a bit.

I still have it, still use it, still think there is use to it. Primarily locking the bolt to the rear.
My gun is not a frankengun, does not malfunction.

I think Still Alive sums it up nicely, "There is no right answer here. I personally don't use one but many people do and love it. If you like it and run it well, fill your boots!"

As for YYC, you know what I think about your glock ;)
 
If a Highly trained special force guy like Haley can have an ND then anybody can. Nothing else in the trigger guard it’s very simple.

That is what I had to change.

My finger is long enough to stay out of the well and I can use my knuckle to push the lever to close the bolt.
 
So locking the bolt to the rear because your franken gun(and mags) is a POS and likes to double feed or fail to extract, got it. Although I will add that there are other devices that allow you to lock the bolt to the rear without putting your finger inside the trigger guard.

https://www.redi-mag.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=61
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NA8fkV5cI4&t=52s

A much safer method, and one that doesn't mix admin movements with firing the rifle. Removing the magazine is pretty standard for most complex malfunctions so maintaining pressure on the mag release while manipulating the bolt to the rear(in an effort to lock it open) makes perfect sense. What's really nice is that should the S spring fail, your rifle simply works as originally designed, no loss of other functions.

I mean, every gun will fail at some point- not just the POS ones. We don't get to choose which failure either, unfortunately.

I've never seen or heard of this device before. As a lefty it wouldn't offer much utility for me, but I can see why someone normal handed might like it.

My only question (which might be unfounded because i'm retarded) is wouldn't hitting the paddle to release the bolt after inserting a fresh mag cause the mag release to actuate as well?
 
I mean, every gun will fail at some point- not just the POS ones. We don't get to choose which failure either, unfortunately.

I've never seen or heard of this device before. As a lefty it wouldn't offer much utility for me, but I can see why someone normal handed might like it.

My only question (which might be unfounded because i'm retarded) is wouldn't hitting the paddle to release the bolt after inserting a fresh mag cause the mag release to actuate as well?

You are right, it's not much help for a lefty. The bolt release is not connected to the redi catch or mag release at all. Pressing the mag release activates the bolt catch every time which is of no concern.
 
You are right, it's not much help for a lefty. The bolt release is not connected to the redi catch or mag release at all. Pressing the mag release activates the bolt catch every time which is of no concern.

I can't deny that it's a neat idea. I'll keep my BAD lever because i'm wrong handed and it's really helpful.

Edit: scratch the part about trying one if I was a righty. I'd be pissed off at it the first time I wanted to clear a type 3 while retaining my magazine
 
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I just looked at that redi-catch thing
Slick
I like it
Might have to make one.
(Make cause im assuming no one has it in Canada?)
 
I can't deny that it's a neat idea. I'll keep my BAD lever because i'm wrong handed and it's really helpful.

Edit: scratch the part about trying one if I was a righty. I'd be pissed off at it the first time I wanted to clear a type 3 while retaining my magazine

Clearing a type 3 malfunction requires removing the magazine, there is no negative to the redi catch.

I just looked at that redi-catch thing
Slick
I like it
Might have to make one.
(Make cause im assuming no one has it in Canada?)

It is available from A to the Z tech.. ;)
 
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