Baikal IJ58MA: To turn into a coach gun or not

[COREY]

I have a Huglu hammered coach gun for CAS matches. I really like the gun, but the hammers slow me down a bit. I was mulling over an alternative if I wanted it (would keep the Huglu for sure). I was looking at the Huglu hammerless guns but none are available with double triggers (like the double triggers). Had a Stoeger at one time, and my daughter has a Sroger 410 coach right now, and they are not as nice as tue Huglu.

Was looking in the cabinet and remembered I had a Baikal IJ58MA. Barrels are at least 28"; I had refinished the stock and isntalled a new Pachmyer pad on it. While the long barrels are nice it makes it a bit unwieldy in a CAS match and the full chokes are no help either.

Does anyone know what cutting one of these down, putting in a plug, and reinstalling the bead (had an oversized bead installed) would cost?

 

[guntech]

I would venture a guess of $50 to $100 depending on the smith doing it... I think a decent job on it would take an hour anyway... if you fill the end with black epoxy rather than solder.

 

[fingers284]

Not sure about the Baikal but a buddy of mine had a Huglu and cut the barrels for coyboy'n. What was left of the barrels split apart and a couple of professional silver solder folks tried to stick them together again but , after several failures, last I heard, the gun was given up on.

Not sure why you dont want a single trigger double for cowboy, I've used both and pretty much shaved 10-20 seconds per match with a single...easily adds a second per stage feeling for that second trigger under the clock.

 

[COREY]

Good to know about the soldering.

I have heard too many horror stories about Stoeger single triggers to trust them. On top of that, the other doubles I have already have double triggers, so it changes the firing procedure slightly. I reach for the front trigger first and ride the finger back onto the back trigger for the second shot which I find as fast (or faster) than resetting the single trigger on a pistol.

 

[Brutus]

I have a Huglu hammered coach gun for CAS matches. I really like the gun, but the hammers slow me down a bit. I was mulling over an alternative if I wanted it (would keep the Huglu for sure). I was looking at the Huglu hammerless guns but none are available with double triggers (like the double triggers). Had a Stoeger at one time, and my daughter has a Sroger 410 coach right now, and they are not as nice as tue Huglu.

Was looking in the cabinet and remembered I had a Baikal IJ58MA. Barrels are at least 28"; I had refinished the stock and isntalled a new Pachmyer pad on it. While the long barrels are nice it makes it a bit unwieldy in a CAS match and the full chokes are no help either.

Does anyone know what cutting one of these down, putting in a plug, and reinstalling the bead (had an oversized bead installed) would cost?

Last time I checked Baikal IJ58 had chrome lined interior barrels. That's a much harder material to cut through.
Plus there is no guarantee the remaining chrome lining may start to flake off. I believe you are at the mercy of a chrome lining and its underlying plating to assist adhernce to the gun barrel steal.
That ugliness beyond belief IMHO.
I would lean towards discouraging this idea.
But that's just me.

 

[Meroh]

Last time I checked Baikal IJ58 had chrome lined interior barrels. That's a much harder material to cut through.
Plus there is no guarantee the remaining chrome lining may start to flake off. I believe you are at the mercy of a chrome lining and its underlying plating to assist adhernce to the gun barrel steal.
That ugliness beyond belief IMHO.
I would lean towards discouraging this idea.
But that's just me.

Not a big deal, 30+ years ago I wanted an open choke skeet gun. I went to my gunsmith and asked him to ream the chokes; he said not a chance as the chrome would ruin his reamers. He advised me to saw 3" off of them, which I did, filed them square, and filled the void between the barrels with silver solder I drilled and tapped for a ray-bar front sight. What a gun!! Go ahead and saw it, I also reduced the stock a bit, got rid of the pistol grip, and reduced the front stock from the beavertail to a narrow, schnabble. Nothing pointed like it!!

Go ahead and cut!

 

[gunpro]

cut it and have fun. worst case scenario you get to do some blasting with it, which sounds like is more action than the gun is seeing now.