Baikal MP-27EM-1C "Sporting" O/U shotgun

Yes, it will shoot steel shot.

The manual for the MP-27EM-1C Sporting mentions the steel proof marks on the barrels, and that the Full choke should not be used. Other chokes, go for it.

Planning to go duck hunting with her, are you?
 
Thankyou...found marks but they don't look exactly like the manual shows...hence the question...and yes some goose and duck hunting this fall.
Thanks again
 
Crappieguy said:
Thankyou...found marks but they don't look exactly like the manual shows...hence the question...and yes some goose and duck hunting this fall.
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The proof mark for steel shot -rated barrels is a fleur de lys; that's universal, isn't it (European C.I.P.)? The Sporting model is quite recent, so I don't think there's any that are not so marked. Most modern guns that are not proved for it (not talking about laminated barrels) can take some steel in a non- high performance load without trouble. You should always keep the constriction to Mod or looser, and adjust your shot size accordingly, if you don't have specific information about that gun. Lots of opinions to search out there.

Trulock Chokes [dotcom] makes good chokes that fit the Baikal guns, and they ship to Canada without problems. If you're looking for a nice tight goose blaster.
 
I have had a couple of Baikal over/unders from the 70's--80's and the bores were chrome lined so steel should not be a problem. If it is full choke ,reaming it out to open the choke might be a bit of a chore as the chrome lining will destroy a regular reamer. You have to find someone with a proper reamer.
 
What are your thoughts on this shotgun and its use in sporting clays? I keep hearing people say that you should avoid O/U that are <$2000... but I think I would rather have this than another $700 semi or pump...
 
umdiddly said:
What are your thoughts on this shotgun and its use in sporting clays? I keep hearing people say that you should avoid O/U that are <$2000... but I think I would rather have this than another $700 semi or pump...
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All depends on what volume you intend to shoot although as far as low priced over/unders go, the Baikal seems to keep on ticking---kind of like a timex!!
 
So the more expensive O/Us perform better under stress, I'm assuming? Like the baikal, will it need to cool down between sessions, else the action will just lock down? ...What do you mean by volume?

Edit: Also.. what is the difference between the "field" and the "sporting" models?
 
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There’s more to shotgun, reliability that going bang. More expensive guns are designs for high volume shooting. They have engineered recoil management, Better quality steel and are machined to tighter tolerances. High volume shooting means different things to different people. I shoot around 8000 rounds a year, but I know guys that shoot 10K to 12K a year.
At our club the cheaper O/Us come and go, they have a host of problems , that all stem for just plain poor quality. I have had never seen the gun mentioned in this post, so I will reserve judgment on it.
However rafter 40 years of shot gunning, it has been my experience that in O/Us you get what you pay for.
 
umdiddly said:
where do you pick one of these up, brand new?
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Site sponsor Interammo (banner up top) imports Izhmash arms. The shotgun section of their site isn't up-dated, but I've seen them flogging Baikals in the EE. Though they've sold out most of the latest batch they brought, you could try asking them to get you one for the next time.

So the more expensive O/Us perform better under stress, I'm assuming? Like the baikal, will it need to cool down between sessions, else the action will just lock down? ...What do you mean by volume?
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It's not about the stress of a single firing (or a small batch), which any modern manufactured fire-arm is more than capable of handling by design. What is usually meant by proponents of the $2.000+ or GTFO school is that a cheaper gun will only last for 10.000 shots before it needs significant service (or breaks beyond repair). Whereas fancy wonderguns have a life-span of hundreds of thousands of rounds and will always be as slick as when they left the factory. Removing exaggeration, it's not a wrong assessment on the average, and ‘you get what you pay for’ stands as good advice in many situations.

The MP-27EM-1C Sporting is one gun I use for clay sports (including more expensive ones), and it works very well for me. I'm not at super high volume, but am over 3.000 through this one with zero problems, and no change except for the pleasant loosening of the very stiff action from new. If the gun doesn't fit you as it does me, your experience will be different. All guns heat up quite a bit through rapid firing, and this one doesn't suffer more than usual; I've shot rounds of targets with the gun quickly enough that the barrels would give light blisters on touch, and no lock-up or malfunction.

Also.. what is the difference between the "field" and the "sporting" models?
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Barrel length, ported muzzles, weight, rib width, sights, stock shape. These differences are noted at the Baikal Canada site that you linked to. It also has an engraved UFO on each side of the receiver, to denote its use for clay targets rather than game.
 
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