I really don't get the fascination with Nosler. They used to have cheap pistol JHPs, terrible performers that almost always shed their jacket but were very affordable. Not a thing any more. Brass has never been much good IMO and apparently plenty of others. The load data in their manuals was so far off everyone else's I gave it away and now the few OK products out there from them are wildly overpriced, beating the other increases by years. They are a #### company and I have a really hard time thinking otherwise.