Barnes TSX 7.62x39mm 123 grain bullet?

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Anyone every use this round on live game? I am wondering about the overall length of the bullet is it longer than the hornaby 123 grain bullet? I am thinking of buying a box and try it out later this fall but the price has mea little spooked ($43 for 50 bullets!).
 
I use it in my 7.62 x 51mm and the impact hole is small but the cavity in the game is HUGE! Well worth the money I thought. Plus if you do get a lung shot the game doesn't make it more than 20 yards before it drops. The accuracy also with having a non lead bullet is outstanding but then again it's not like you want to take these rounds to the range and start printing them off. :eek: The only bad thing I have noticed about Barnes bullets is it's the price. But that is my two cents.
 
Hunting?

Does Barnes make .311-.312" bullets of the proper weight? :cool:
That sure would convince me to try the 7,62x39 on deer!
One season with the VZ-58, one season with the Rashid, another with the SKS and another one with the VZ-52/57.
Then with all the variants... not bad at all! :dancingbanana:
PP.
 
Satain said:
I use it in my 7.62 x 51mm and the impact hole is small but the cavity in the game is HUGE! Well worth the money I thought. Plus if you do get a lung shot the game doesn't make it more than 20 yards before it drops. The accuracy also with having a non lead bullet is outstanding but then again it's not like you want to take these rounds to the range and start printing them off. :eek: The only bad thing I have noticed about Barnes bullets is it's the price. But that is my two cents.
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Arent you concerned that you're shooting a .310-.311 bullet down a barrel made for .308 bullets?
 
You joking right?
LoL!
Next your going to tell me that anyone who shoot's 7.62 x 51mm in a 308 is going to die!
LoL!
What ever did people do before the internet!
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Satain said:
You joking right?
LoL!
Next your going to tell me that anyone who shoot's 7.62 x 51mm in a 308 is going to die!
LoL!
What ever did people do before the internet!
:slap:
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No, I'm a believer in 7.62/308 and 5.56/.223 being interchangeable in real life. The .311 bullets in a .308 barrel I had heard was extremely dangerous. Not trying to be a smartass; how many of these have you shot?
 
The Ruger Mini-30 has a .308 barrel and most ammo shot in them is probably the .310 - .311 flavour. So shooting the bigger bullet is not always a problem.

In rifles made to shoot two diameters, the freebore is longer and the throat deeper so as to reduce pressure.

As for the Barnes in the 7.62x51, so long as the bullet is off the rifling and the laod not too hot, it will work. But the solid copper bullet can be tricky when it comes to raising pressure. It is not a combination I would recommend.
 
ive got some of those barnes bullets. they measured about .309 inches. i missed my deer but it made a nice hole in the stump that was between us!
 
northman- I have barnes tsx loads in 7.62x51. I bought 150 and 165 grain 30 cal bullets.
I think the 7.62x39 ones are different bullets altogether.
 
Throttle_monkey1 said:
northman- I have barnes tsx loads in 7.62x51. I bought 150 and 165 grain 30 cal bullets.
I think the 7.62x39 ones are different bullets altogether.
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A .308" diameter bullet is in metric 7.62mm, while a .311" is in metric 7.70mm. Though it is true that the bullet stretches and the diameter shrinks slightly upon projection from cartridge, I still wouldn't risk using a slightly larger cartridge when the weapon was designed specifically for the former. And I would be even more critical against using a smaller cartridge. If it were possible to use a larger bullet, the casing would still have to be within almost exact dimensions to be properly chambered. So to use a .311, it would have to be a 7.70x39mm round to guarantee less chance of error.

Btw, In that metric designation, the suffix numbers after the "x" refer to the length of the casing/cartridge in which the bullet fits. Many firearms are chambered for the same caliber, however each requires a different standard in cartridge dimensions. Some with longer casings, others with shorter. However if you compare a 7.62x39 bullet with a 7.62x51 or 7.62x54r bullet, you will see the differences are none to miniscule whereas the actual bullet length may be longer or shorter by a millimeter however the diameter is exactly the same (in appearance). I've got pretty good eyes, and they seem as exact as I can tell, though I'm no Terminator so couldn't be 100% positive.
 
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I haven't tried it but using a .310 TSX in a .308 may not be a big deal...

It seems most .310 lead core bullets will compress when shot in a .308 (Like Mini 30) and while the all copper TSX won't compress like that, the grooves in the TSX allow the copper to flow a bit as it is imprinted by the rifling in the barrel.

Again, i haven't tried it,but it seems like a decent theory to me.

Since the .308 caliber 130gr TTSX bullet is available, I don't see the need to use the .310 123gr TSX in a .308 Winchester/7.62x51 etc...
 
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Umm my point was that my 30 cal bullets are .308, and that 7.62x39 barnes bullets are not the same as generic 30 cal ones.


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A .308" diameter bullet is in metric 7.62mm, while a .311" is in metric 7.70mm. Though it is true that the bullet stretches and the diameter shrinks slightly upon projection from cartridge, I still wouldn't risk using a slightly larger cartridge when the weapon was designed specifically for the former. And I would be even more critical against using a smaller cartridge. If it were possible to use a larger bullet, the casing would still have to be within almost exact dimensions to be properly chambered. So to use a .311, it would have to be a 7.70x39mm round to guarantee less chance of error.

Btw, In that metric designation, the suffix numbers after the "x" refer to the length of the casing/cartridge in which the bullet fits. Many firearms are chambered for the same caliber, however each requires a different standard in cartridge dimensions. Some with longer casings, others with shorter. However if you compare a 7.62x39 bullet with a 7.62x51 or 7.62x54r bullet, you will see the differences are none to miniscule whereas the actual bullet length may be longer or shorter by a millimeter however the diameter is exactly the same (in appearance). I've got pretty good eyes, and they seem as exact as I can tell, though I'm no Terminator so couldn't be 100% positive.
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