barrel accuracy-first shot

[Bluffton Bill]

What is happening when your first shot prints high followed by a 3 shot group1.5-2.5 inch group 6" underneath? Both my Marlin 1895 and BP rifle are doing this. This is out of a COLD not a CLEAN barrel. It is consistent.

I want to fix it. Not interested in sighting in and shooting to compensate. Too many good rifles out there, no time for junk. I want consistent groups. They don't have to be MOA with these rifles but they need to Group!

 

[guntech]

Possibly more rounds through those rifles will settle them in... I don't think there is any other 'fix'.

 

[cody c]

Aim about 6" low with your first shot and the group should tighten up.

 

[Bluffton Bill]

Aim about 6" low with your first shot and the group should tighten up.

Not a great idea in a hunting situation. It a hunting rifle can't group 2-3 inches at 100 it isn't worth keeping.

thanks anyway.

 

[A&Shuntr]

Have you chronographed the loads as you shoot? maybe some wide velocity spreads? Factory or handloads? Might just be an expensive pry bar.

 

[domyalex]

From a clean barrel it's hardly an issue at all.

What matters is from a COLD and FOULED barrel (that's how you are going to hunt).

 

[E. Fudd]

My cold bore shots are my zero now. Took a few trips to the range to do it but my first shot from 50 - 100 - 200 yards (would test further but the range I go to is only 200 yards) of the day from a cold, fouled barrel is my zero. The group generally tightens up approx 1-1.5 inch lower than the first shot as the barrel heats up.

 

[Kelly Timoffee]

Most hunters can't group 2 to 3" at 100 either, should we throw them away???

Not a great idea in a hunting situation. It a hunting rifle can't group 2-3 inches at 100 it isn't worth keeping.

thanks anyway.

 

[l1fel1ne]

Most hunters can't group 2 to 3" at 100 either, should we throw them away???

Yes, more deer for me that way

 

[Rocket Surgery]

Yes, more deer for me that way

so tasty

 

[skokie]

Most hunters can't group 2 to 3" at 100 either, should we throw them away???

No, if look at the killzone of even a deer, its bigger than two or three inches. May be he hunts small game, mice, caterpillers, mosquitos you know...

 

[mmattockx]

What is happening when your first shot prints high followed by a 3 shot group1.5-2.5 inch group 6" underneath? Both my Marlin 1895 and BP rifle are doing this. This is out of a COLD not a CLEAN barrel. It is consistent.

I want to fix it. Not interested in sighting in and shooting to compensate. Too many good rifles out there, no time for junk. I want consistent groups. They don't have to be MOA with these rifles but they need to Group!

Are these all cold bore shots? Or one cold bore shot, followed quickly by a relatively fast 3 shot group? How does the rifle group if you shoot 3 cold bore shots in a row?


Mark

 

[Bluffton Bill]

Are these all cold bore shots? Or one cold bore shot, followed quickly by a relatively fast 3 shot group? How does the rifle group if you shoot 3 cold bore shots in a row?


Mark

in the marlin 1895. It prints 3" high at 100 yards. And the next shot (after letting it cool a bit will go 6" below that. The rest of the group shot relatively slow was into the same lower group.

I thought it might have something to do with the reducing weight in the mag (as I shot each round). So I filled it up, but just had fed it through. I changed up the load and it got a little better.

Only 200 rounds through this gun. Maybe I just need to keep at it.

 

[Bluffton Bill]

No, if look at the killzone of even a deer, its bigger than two or three inches. May be he hunts small game, mice, caterpillers, mosquitos you know...

I don't have a sense of humor.

Any hunter that can't hold er under 3 inches, off a bench, at 100 needs to spend more time shooting, lose their flinch, or figure out why they suck so bad.

If they can group 3 inches at 100 off hand then they are some pumpkins.

There are a lot of gut shot deer to attest to bad marksmenship, sub-par or broken equipment

 

[Bluffton Bill]

Most hunters can't group 2 to 3" at 100 either, should we throw them away???

If that is off of a bench rest yes.

If they can do it off hand......shake their hand

 

[SuperCub]

I don't have a sense of humor.

LOL ....

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