Barricade/obstacle shooting

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Ryan.M.Anderson

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I know everyone here is a 1/2 MOA shooter all day long (this is what the internets tells me).

Wondering what everyone thinks is the gold standard for barricade shooting. Smacking a full size IPSC at 500 off a barricade is fun but not very challenging.

I know this is a tough question as a kneeling or seated barricade position is easier than a standing, etc. but want to know everyone's thoughts.

No rear tripod support though.
 
As a baseline, a 308 win with a 178 HPBT will 'miss' its mark by 1 MOA with a 2 mph wind call error at 500 yd. That's a pretty easy error. Few serious competitors will bring a 308, obviously, but if catering to the least common denominator, this would indicate a 2 MOA wide target would be a good start. A high performance 6mm will miss 0,6 MOA for the same error, yielding a 1.2 MOA reference for a fair target.

A properly competitive target should be between those two numbers.
 
max-x said:
As a baseline, a 308 win with a 178 HPBT will 'miss' its mark by 1 MOA with a 2 mph wind call error at 500 yd. That's a pretty easy error. Few serious competitors will bring a 308, obviously, but if catering to the least common denominator, this would indicate a 2 MOA wide target would be a good start. A high performance 6mm will miss 0,6 MOA for the same error, yielding a 1.2 MOA reference for a fair target.

A properly competitive target should be between those two numbers.
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But you are not on your belly, a 2 mph wind error is the least of your worries on a barricade.

For me, a seated/ kneeling position 1MOA is a challenge, standing and hunched over, 2MOA is difficult.
 
I use the PRS tie-breaker (but 2 mins instead of 90 seconds) as my benchmark. 10" square at 400 yards, 2 shots from each position for a total of 8 shots. 2.5 MOA sounds pretty generous, I know but give it a go. I use a tripod as rear support. Sometimes the 400 yard gong is hanging too low to see when kneeling so I use the 2/3 IPSC at 475 yards or if I'm at my private spot, a 8" square at 305 (next target is at 690). I rarely miss shooting a 2/3 IPSC kneeling off my barricade at 830 yards and am about 50% on it standing, but that's under no time limit.
 
rugbydave said:
I use the PRS tie-breaker (but 2 mins instead of 90 seconds) as my benchmark. 10" square at 400 yards, 2 shots from each position for a total of 8 shots. 2.5 MOA sounds pretty generous, I know but give it a go. I use a tripod as rear support. Sometimes the 400 yard gong is hanging too low to see when kneeling so I use the 2/3 IPSC at 475 yards or if I'm at my private spot, a 8" square at 305 (next target is at 690). I rarely miss shooting a 2/3 IPSC kneeling off my barricade at 830 yards and am about 50% on it standing, but that's under no time limit.
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At one point the PRS said the skills stages results would be posted, I have never found them. I would agree that it is a good ball park. I know Regina Milkovich has cleaned it but she is a top shooter.
 
Lots of the PRS pros can clean it and some of the times are pretty impressive.

There's something about clearing it in a match though, haha. I've cleared it in practice (both the 10" @ 400 and 2/3IPSC @ 475) but never in a match. I use 2 minutes (instead of the PRS' 90 seconds) cause that's normally what that stage's time limit is in the matches I shoot. I think when it comes to barricade shooting, you've got to introduce a time stressor, at least once you're making consistent hits. I mean I can hit the 2/3 IPSC @475 with my M14 (that shoots 1.5 moa) off the barricade pretty consistently if I'm not under a time crunch. I don't think I've shot many stages off barricades at matches that have targets smaller than 2 moa. Most prone targets are around 2 moa even, other than kyl racks and some small poppers. The wind down in WA makes that plenty challenging as is! That's why I set up my private spot with steel targets out to 980 that are all closer to 1.5 moa, since there's almost no wind there, ususally.
 
A good barricade shooter can hit 1MOA dots at 100 pretty consistently. Once you get out there, wind becomes a factor. Are your misses due to wind or bad barricade shooting technique? No way to tell.

If you want to isolate the barricade shooting itself, use 1"dots at 100 yards on paper. It will tell you a lot about how well you're shooting the barricades without other external influences. You will see if the group location changes in different positions and when shooting support side. If it does, then the issue(s) causing that need to be addressed before adding wind and time stress to the equation.
 
There should be a barricade shooting sticky. Considering how empty the .75 moa challenge is I would think it would fill up slow.

Thanks for the replies - good info.
 
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