Bayonet, which rifle is it off of?

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Hi, I received a gift from my father, probably ten years ago and its been hidden away on a shelf all this time. I was cleaning and found it
tucked away in a corner. I have some military surplus rifles, SKS, Mosin Nagant, Swedish Mauser, but it does not fit any of them.

I think my father must have bought it when he was younger or found it at an auction or something, he doesn't recall where he picked it up.

It appears to have some kind of a twist lock mechanism for attaching, and the cover for it slides off with some resistance, there are some markings on it that hopefully someone can identify and tell me what kind of rifle it belongs to. I would be interested in buying the rifle to match the bayonet :)

Thanks


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ssmedic said:
Hey thanks, would that rifle be easy to find or is it rare?
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Long Branch No.4's aren't exactly rare but good ones are scarce. A lot of them out there are restored or otherwise molested so to find one all original isn't too easy. It depends on how particular you are. A factory original will run around $800. to $1000. in these parts.
 
its not that hard to find one although they have really gone up in price in the last while and they sell quick.Last i checked P&S Guns hade a canadian made #4 i think he was asking 850 for it The british made no4 rifles are a little cheaper
 
So, just to help you how to identify your bayonet, here is the designation:

A WWII spike bayonet, No 4 Mk II (as written on it) made at Long Branch (it's the ''B'' stamped just above the almost erased ''II'') ON. It was made for the WWII Lee Enfield No 4 Mk I rifle. The Long Branch marking is something like an ''L'' hidden in a ''B''. Above the ''No'' there is a ''C Broad Arrow'' which is the proof mark for Canadian war department ownership. Of course, you have the metal scabbard without the frog.

That's it!

Martin
 
^It's made for a No4 Mk1 rifle. The No4 Mk2 came post WWII. {psst, OP. the bayo will fit both:)}

Also, to the OP, .303 British can get kinda expensive at over $1 every pull of the trigger. It is readily available in most parts (Ont. anyhow) but expensive for paper punching. If you buy the rifle to match the "tent peg" and wish to shoot it with regularity, you will want to also invest in reloading.

Your question in the monetary sense would be: Should I spend $400-$1000 on a rifle and another $500-$1500 on reloading equipment with accessories so I can match the $5-$20 bayo my Dad gave me 10 years ago?...only you can answer that question OP.

BTW, I'm not bashing the bayonet by referring to it as a "tent peg", that was what some referred to the Enfield's spiked bayo as {I believe some even used them as tent pegs}. They were cheap at one time and sold in barrels at your local hardware/ milsurp place for multiples at like a dollar. They were not well liked by our troops who preferred the bladed variant for these rifles. Now, having said that, if you happen across one that kinda looks like yours but has flutes in it {cruciform}, you need to drop me a line ;). (rare, and expensive if authentic. Buyer beware as there are fakes though)
 
I, for one, see absolutely nothing wrong with buying a rifle because you have the bayonet for it. That is the sign of a true milsurp addict. Other reasons include:

-because it is a Lee Enfield
-because you don't have one
-because you don't have two
-because you don't have three
-because you don't have one with that serial number
-because you have an empty space on the rack
-because it followed you home
-just because
-etc.
 
myenfield said:
I, for one, see absolutely nothing wrong with buying a rifle because you have the bayonet for it. That is the sign of a true milsurp addict. Other reasons include:

-because it is a Lee Enfield
-because you don't have one
-because you don't have two
-because you don't have three
-because you don't have one with that serial number
-because you have an empty space on the rack
-because it followed you home
-just because
-etc.
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Hahaha! So true! "Because I have the bayonet" has gotten me in a lot of trouble!
 
I'd get the rifle, everyone needs to have a Lee Enfeild.


As for where your Father might have obtained the spike bayonet? I remember when i was a boy they had a barrel full of them in the hardware store, without scabbard for 5 for a dollar. We used them as tent pegs. They worked great. We had 3 dollars worth of them for our tent.
 
myenfield said:
I, for one, see absolutely nothing wrong with buying a rifle because you have the bayonet for it. That is the sign of a true milsurp addict. Other reasons include:

-because it is a Lee Enfield
-because you don't have one
-because you don't have two
-because you don't have three
-because you don't have one with that serial number
-because you have an empty space on the rack
-because it followed you home
-just because
-etc.
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Add to that the following:
-I don't have that year.
-I don't have that variation
-I went to the gun show with money and had to buy something.

You never have too many LongBranch Enfields.

To the OP: a few here have pointed out the no4mkII designation, and it may not be quite clear. Yours is the no4mkII, which was the second variation of the no4 bayonet. The no4mk1 had the cruciform (grooved) blade, and is fairly hard to find. There were a number of variations to the non-grooved model, mostly in the manufacture of the bayonet, but for a LB bayonet, there was no variation....all were like the one you have. Any of the variations were meant for any mark of the no4 rifle.
 
Use 0000 steel wool and some oil to get the rust off then go buy a No. 4 Mk I or a Mk I*. Get proof of good headspace when you do. Decent condition Long Branch(that's at the foot of Dixie Road in Mississauga) rifles are not cheap anymore though. You should probably start on the EE.
 
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