BC ISSF Sierra 2009 Match Results

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We had a great weekend weather wise (mid-high 20's) with some tricky winds and mirage.

Though this range is only 300m at the moment, it is not a forgiving range by any means.

I think most of those who showed up had a great time (including myself).

Congrats to all the winners, everyone shot a great match.

Here are the results. Hopefully I will have pics up soon. I did not take my camera with me but I am expecting pics to be sent.

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How does the scoring work for this match?

How many shots total , how are they split up and how many points etc??

We had our Sierra match today at Borden, 3 relays of 20 shots each a Bull being 10 pts.

Mike
 
great fun,great shoot

A Big Thank You . The scoring is the new international,1-5 and a X,with a much smaller and harder to see X-ring. The strings were 15 shot.It's real easy to drop a couple of points with slight change in the wind.I know I did more than a few times,but I have a ways to go yet. I liked it.Much more of a challenge,but it also allows you to come back with some good shooting. The real down side will be newbies getting some embarisng scores,at least with the 10 score,the numbers didn't look too bad.
 
Ice-Pick said:
How does the scoring work for this match?

How many shots total , how are they split up and how many points etc??

We had our Sierra match today at Borden, 3 relays of 20 shots each a Bull being 10 pts.

Mike
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I believe typically it is set up as you stated with 3 20 shot strings. We stretched it out over 2 days with 5 relays (3 Sat and 2 Sun) of 2 convertible sighters and 15 for score with unlimited sighters and 15 for score for the first relay on Saturday to allow those who did not have their zeros to be able to attain them.

Since KTSA switched to ICFRA targets this is what we shot on with 35mm V-Bull, 70mm Bull and so on...Scoring was V-5-4-3-2-1.

We had a couple of people who do not appreciate the new target and did voice their dislike for it (one even refused to shoot and left for home.). Hopefully we can figure out a compromise for the short range targets for future events. Once we get out to 500m there is no issue with the dimensions as they default to 1/2min V-Bull rather than the .4moa V-Bull for the 300m targets. I believe this will be an ongoing debate for some time.

Kodiak99317 said:
Congrats on some nice shooting there Rich

Keith
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Thanks Keith,

The highlight of my weekend was the 75-15 Possible on Sunday morning on the ICFRA target. Unfortunately there was already shots put through the clean face from the relay before me and they changed the stick on center near the end of my string so the face does not reflect the 15 rounds I put through there but I have it home anyway to put with my score card.

Hopefully I can do equally as well in Nokomis in 2 weeks :D
 
The scoring was standard F-Class and TR scoring. "10's" and "X's" are the stuff of ISSF and U.S. scoring.

We used to shoot 20 round strings, but the previous match director shortened it for fear of taking too long, and it has stuck. I hope we go back to 20's.
 
IP(Mike),
We shot on the ISSF 300 target with a 100mm "10 " ring, roughly 3.9" centre.
Google it for illustration and all measurements.
The 70mm bull and 35mm V are that much more challenging and humbling score wise.
I personally like the change to the smaller target for F'ers but think the ISSF targets are challenging enough for TR shooters.
20 shot strings are pretty tiring but can be put down range pretty quick with a good target marker working your target like I was fortunate enough to have on Sunday.
ORA and DCRA has made the commitment to use the new ICFRA target for the Provincials and Nationals for us F'ers.

Wish you fellows out there were easier for me to get to.Would love to join in.
Saw some pics of your ranges.They look spectacular and I'm sure the landscape can really make for interesting conditions.
Congrats to all.
Gord
 
ONT0001 said:
IP(Mike),
We shot on the ISSF 300 target with a 100mm "10 " ring, roughly 3.9" centre.
Google it for illustration and all measurements.
The 70mm bull and 35mm V are that much more challenging and humbling score wise.
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A 70mm bull (5-ring) and 35mm V-bull are the dimensions for the ICFRA F-Class target. I am surprised that it was used for TR shooters too (though I can imagine it would simplify the running of the match).

There sure were a bunch of impressive scores fired on that target, in all classes - wow! While "humbling", tight target do tend to draw out the best in shooters...

ORA and DCRA has made the commitment to use the new ICFRA target for the Provincials and Nationals for us F'ers.
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I don't know what ORA will be doing, but just to be clear, DCRA will not be using the ICFRA target in the near future. Our intention is to consider moving to the ICFRA target system when our existing target stocks are used up.

What will be happening, starting this year, is that F-Class shooters at the DCRA Canadian Fullbore Rifle Championships will be squadded separately from TR shooters, and they will fire on special F-Class targets. An "F-Class Patch" will be applied to a standard DCRA TR target, which will replace the V-bull of the TR target with a solid white circle, which will become the F-Class bull (5-ring), which is approximately 1 minute in diameter (a bit less at short range, a bit more at long range). Inside this is castellated ring with a diameter half that of the bull; this will be the F-Class V-bull (which will be approximately, but not exactly, half a minute in size).
 
We have lost two very long-time shooters that hate the new short range target. All black, with no aiming mark, and only 35mm took the fun factor out of it for one F-Open and one F-TR shooter, both of considerable distinction.

I have raised the issue of the proposed short range target dimensions and was surprised at the indifference. I too will shoot at anything, but it would appear that a couple of my concerns have come to fruition. Many of the F/R guys are now wanting to use the TR targets... This concerns me.

I hope PRA/DCRA members will sound off with their thoughts, as this dimension is set to be finalized by ICFRA pending a final decision this year following the FCWC in Bisley.
 
rnbra-shooter said:
A 70mm bull (5-ring) and 35mm V-bull are the dimensions for the ICFRA F-Class target. I am surprised that it was used for TR shooters too (though I can imagine it would simplify the running of the match).
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TR was scored as it will be in the BC Provincials. The V and 5 mark were tallied as V's, 4 as 5, 3 as 4, 2 as 3 and so on. So the TR shooters were being scored on the TR 70mm V-Bull system. The target markers scored all the targets the same and the scores were adjusted at the shooting line to coincide with TR scoring.
 
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