BC question, evidence of species and ###

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help a guy with his whitetail (4 point buck) the other day and skinning it, he left the nutsack attached, removed the tail, and left the head on. he asked me what i do and i told him i just leave the head attached for the trip to the butcher. he seems to think that i would get in trouble from the fish cops if i was ever checked. i find it hard to believe that a CO wouldn't be able to tell the difference between a muley and a whitetail from the head.

he removed the tail, so the head is the only evidence of species that he left, so why aren't the horns good enough for evidence of ### i asked him.

what do you guys do?
 
MiG25 said:
so why aren't the horns good enough for evidence of ### i asked him.
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DOESN'T ANYONE READ THE REGULATIONS???


BC Hunting Regulations said:
(1) For elk, moose, and deer:
(a) If the animal is male, either
(i) that portion of the head which
bears the antlers, OR
(ii) both a testicle or part of the #####,
AND the animal’s tail or another
readily identifiable part of the hide
not less than 6 cm2.
(b) If the animal is female, either
(i) that portion of the head which in
males normally bears antlers, OR
(ii) both a portion of the udder or
teats, AND the animal’s tail or
another readily identifiable part of
the hide not less than 6 cm2.
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Exactly 'Boo.


I remove the head for easier transport so I leave the tail and the testicles and ##### attached to the carcass or in the case of a female, the udder and tail.

The regulations synopsis states:

(1) For elk, moose, and deer:
(a) If the animal is male, either
(i) that portion of the head which
bears the antlers, OR(ii) both a testicle or part of the #####,
AND the animal’s tail or another
readily identifiable part of the hide
not less than 6 cm2.
(b) If the animal is female, either
(i) that portion of the head which in
males normally bears antlers, OR
(ii) both a portion of the udder or
teats, AND the animal’s tail or
another readily identifiable part of
the hide not less than 6 cm2.
 
I wonder if leaving the nutsack/dingle rod or teats would fulfill the 6 sq cm hide rule.
6 sq cm is not much, the size of a post it note... a teat is what maybe 2 sq cm? What would you leave on a piece of hide about the size of your hand, say 20x20 cm or 400sq?

Also I've wondered how a CO would determine species in a doe from a piece of hide, especially belly hide.....

Not that I would ever test it though.
Normally I leave the head, nutsuck/dingle rod or teats, and a ring of hide on the legs. That way I have options when I get back to camp.
 
Here's a question i've always meant to ask ...

What if you have to bone out the animal to get it out? You obviously can't leave hide on EVERY portion of the meat. And even if you brought out the head i doubt the co would appreciate being told "Well YOU put it back together and see if the head fits." :D

Thought about that a year ago when i was thinking about what i'd do if i shot one deep in the woods with no recovery vehicle and it was too big to drag out. I always meant to call and ask but never got around to it.
 
MiG25 said:
help a guy with his whitetail (4 point buck) the other day and skinning it, he left the nutsack attached, removed the tail, and left the head on. he asked me what i do and i told him i just leave the head attached for the trip to the butcher. he seems to think that i would get in trouble from the fish cops if i was ever checked. i find it hard to believe that a CO wouldn't be able to tell the difference between a muley and a whitetail from the head.

he removed the tail, so the head is the only evidence of species that he left, so why aren't the horns good enough for evidence of ### i asked him.

what do you guys do?
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The fish cop would distinguish a mule from a whitetail by the tail if by some chance it was a hybrid.So the horns wouldn't make a difference....
 
Foxer said:
H You obviously can't leave hide on EVERY portion of the meat.
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Once again the regulations are your friend ...............

Anyone who possesses or transports the
carcass or part of the carcass of the following
animals must leave naturally attached to
the carcass or one part of the carcass in
the person’s possession the following listed
parts:
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By acknowledging there may be more than one part of the animal in transit the powers that be understand an animal may be in multiple pieces when inspected by a CO.
 
Having a picture of the hunter with the downed animal has certainly helped convince the authorities of what all the pieces are.

There has been cases where individuals have tried mismatching parts from one animal to another , but under simple inspection can be caught. I've had CO's eyeballing up the parts of an elk I'd brought out in several pieces. It all fit, and with a fresh pic it was OK.
 
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