BCRA Tactical rifle championship 2009 questionairre

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Parker-Hale Mike

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We are in the process of laying out the Tactical rifle championship for 2009. The past few years of running the match I have done what I have felt was best to help resurrect this event through trying to appeal to both the majority, and also trying to appeal to the lowest common denominator. As the majority of the new found success of the event we have managed to achieve has been because of the members of Gunnutz I will start here. I am looking for input from the competitors on the way they feel the event will be more appealing to them. I have added a few questions to help me sort this out.

If I could figure out how to turn these questions into a poll format I would have.............:confused::redface:

1. Positional shooting other than prone.
a. I would like to see more of it.
b. I am happy with the current mix.
c. I would prefer less positional and more prone.

2. Timed movement stages (jog from 400-300m)
a. I would like to see more of it.
b. I am happy with the current mix.
c. I would prefer less movement and more stationary.

3. Would you like to see the physical stages of this event combined with the three-gun match to form their own separate aggregate and base the overall standings on the non movement stages alone.
a. Yes
b. No

4. Would you prefer having a longer target down time during exposures to help prevent overheating your barrel.
a. Yes
b. No

5. Do you feel that it will make a difference in barrel life if the time span was doubled between exposures?
a. Yes
b. No

6. Would you be happy shooting fewer rounds over the two days as a result of making the down time longer?
a. Yes
b. No

7. Do you feel the matches should be made;
a. More difficult
b. Same level of challenge as they are at now.
c. Less difficult.

8. The 3-gun match will be moved from the Sunday to either the Saturday on Friday evening. Which would you prefer?
a. Friday night
b. Saturday night.

You can just copy my post into yours and BOLD your choice if you want to do it that way. Also add comments questions or concerns that you feel need addressing.

Tell those that you know that shoot this match to get their opinion in so it can be counted, otherwise no whining later.

I will keep this up for a few weeks, after that I will act upon what I see and release the course of fire.
 
1. Positional shooting other than prone.
b. I am happy with the current mix.

2. Timed movement stages (jog from 400-300m)
b. I am happy with the current mix.

3. Would you like to see the physical stages of this event combined with the three-gun match to form their own separate aggregate and base the overall standings on the non movement stages alone.
b. No

4. Would you prefer having a longer target down time during exposures to help prevent overheating your barrel.
b. No

5. Do you feel that it will make a difference in barrel life if the time span was doubled between exposures?
Maybe but I'm not worried about it.

6. Would you be happy shooting fewer rounds over the two days as a result of making the down time longer?
b. No

7. Do you feel the matches should be made;
a. More difficult

8. The 3-gun match will be moved from the Sunday to either the Saturday on Friday evening. Which would you prefer?
b. Saturday night.
 
Jogging, Mike are you nuts:D Some of us aren't as fit or as young as those coppers:p Slow down the rate of fire so that the barrel doesn't over heat? No. Last year was just right. Another night shoot would be cool too. Your'e doing a bang-up job, Mike for PM.
 
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1. Positional shooting other than prone.
a. I would like to see more of it.

2. Timed movement stages (jog from 400-300m)
a. I would like to see more of it.

3. Would you like to see the physical stages of this event combined with the three-gun match to form their own separate aggregate and base the overall standings on the non movement stages alone.
b. No

4. Would you prefer having a longer target down time during exposures to help prevent overheating your barrel.
b. No

5. Do you feel that it will make a difference in barrel life if the time span was doubled between exposures?
I don’t know but and im not worried about it

6. Would you be happy shooting fewer rounds over the two days as a result of making the down time longer?
b. No

7. Do you feel the matches should be made;
I just there for fun and to meet new people so what ever you want. But the bigger the target for me the better.

8. The 3-gun match will be moved from the Sunday to either the Saturday on Friday evening. Which would you prefer?
a. Friday night and night shoot Saturday.
 
1. Positional shooting other than prone.
a. I would like to see more of it.

2. Timed movement stages (jog from 400-300m)
a. I would like to see more of it.

3. Would you like to see the physical stages of this event combined with the three-gun match to form their own separate aggregate and base the overall standings on the non movement stages alone.
b. No

4. Would you prefer having a longer target down time during exposures to help prevent overheating your barrel.
b. No

5. Do you feel that it will make a difference in barrel life if the time span was doubled between exposures?
b. No

6. Would you be happy shooting fewer rounds over the two days as a result of making the down time longer?
b. No

7. Do you feel the matches should be made;
a. More difficult

8. The 3-gun match will be moved from the Sunday to either the Saturday on Friday evening. Which would you prefer?
a. Saturday night
 
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1. Positional shooting other than prone.
a. I would like to see more of it.
b. I am happy with the current mix.
c. I would prefer less positional and more prone.
happy with current but ok with more prone too

2. Timed movement stages (jog from 400-300m)
a. I would like to see more of it.
b. I am happy with the current mix.
c. I would prefer less movement and more stationary.

3. Would you like to see the physical stages of this event combined with the three-gun match to form their own separate aggregate and base the overall standings on the non movement stages alone.
a. Yes
b. No, not interested in the 3gun, but the physical stages are ok.

4. Would you prefer having a longer target down time during exposures to help prevent overheating your barrel.
a. Yes
b. No

5. Do you feel that it will make a difference in barrel life if the time span was doubled between exposures?
a. Yes
b. No

6. Would you be happy shooting fewer rounds over the two days as a result of making the down time longer?
a. Yes
b. No

7. Do you feel the matches should be made;
a. More difficult
b.Same level of challenge as they are at now.
c. Less difficult.

8. The 3-gun match will be moved from the Sunday to either the Saturday on Friday evening. Which would you prefer?
a. Friday night
b. Saturday night.
 
I'm lazy, copy and paste and bolding is too tough for me.
so,
I like the current crop of positional shooting. I'd like to see maybe one more stage requiring us to run. that's in the hope I'll be in better running shape by then. Keep the 3 gun separate, don't ruin my Friday night BBQ by having an event that night. do it Saturday if you have to. Cool down time means #### all to me, if my gun gets worn out I'll replace it or the barrel. I'd like to see more rounds down range, not less.
for the movement, maybe do a stalk or crawl or obstacle course, sort of like Service rifle.

the following ideas are my own opinion and not anyone else's, I realize they'd be a nightmare to run, but thought I'd throw them out there again.
First, teams get packages in the morning of day one (Saturday) this will contain all the targets they have to shoot. They will not necessarily be the same as any other team. They will be assigned, by random, their spot on the mound. All the targets in the butts will be premarked and assigned for each position. they will all be kept for scoring challenges, all of them. If that means we pay a bit more so we can all have our own targets, so be it. to make it even more challenging, your targets may not appear on your spot. they could appear within 3 positions of your spot (not too hard to organize, just make sure the relays are all the same).
I would be happy to volunteer to help to set this up, and take the flak if goes sideways. I can always sit on my porch and take the complainers out as they come down the road anyhow ;)
scoring last year was done great, but we need a laptop, in the butts for doing it. I am sure Big Jim or someone like that could make up a spreadsheet for scoring in about 5 minutes.
Scores do not need to be radioed back to the line. we shoot, we swap out, repeat. At the end of the day a folder with our targets in it will be available for challenges. Scores posted on the wailing wall. Challenges must be done within one hour of the scores being posted, exceptions to On Duty personal that have to leave. As well target inspection will be done under supervision, so no "new holes" can be made. Again I will offer up services to help with this.

let the flames begin.
 
1. Positional shooting other than prone.
a. I would like to see more of it.

2. Timed movement stages (jog from 400-300m)
a. I would like to see more of it.


3. Would you like to see the physical stages of this event combined with the three-gun match to form their own separate aggregate and base the overall standings on the non movement stages alone.

b. No

4. Would you prefer having a longer target down time during exposures to help prevent overheating your barrel.

b. No

5. Do you feel that it will make a difference in barrel life if the time span was doubled between exposures?

b. No

6. Would you be happy shooting fewer rounds over the two days as a result of making the down time longer?

b. No

7. Do you feel the matches should be made;

b. Same level of challenge as they are at now.


8. The 3-gun match will be moved from the Sunday to either the Saturday on Friday evening. Which would you prefer?

a. Friday night
 
Keep Slavex's BBQ, it is one of the best parts ;) Also keep in mind that some people are traveling along way there and often arrive on friday and are still getting their s**t together that day/night.
 
Parker-Hale Mike said:

1. Positional shooting other than prone.
a. I would like to see more of it.
b. I am happy with the current mix.
c. I would prefer less positional and more prone.

2. Timed movement stages (jog from 400-300m)
a. I would like to see more of it.
b. I am happy with the current mix.
c. I would prefer less movement and more stationary.

3. Would you like to see the physical stages of this event combined with the three-gun match to form their own separate aggregate and base the overall standings on the non movement stages alone.
a. Yes
b. No

4. Would you prefer having a longer target down time during exposures to help prevent overheating your barrel.
a. Yes
b. No

5. Do you feel that it will make a difference in barrel life if the time span was doubled between exposures?
a. Yes
b. No
c. Maybe, but I'd still rather have less down time

6. Would you be happy shooting fewer rounds over the two days as a result of making the down time longer?
a. Yes
b. No No No

7. Do you feel the matches should be made;
a. More difficult
b. Same level of challenge as they are at now.
c. Less difficult.
Some matches can maybe be made more difficult, others are just fine as they are, and as evidenced by the scores. If everyone got a perfect score (or a zero), that match needs tweaking.

8. The 3-gun match will be moved from the Sunday to either the Saturday on Friday evening. Which would you prefer?
a. Friday night
b. Saturday night. Leave Slavex's bbq alone
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Edit: re: scoring, a laptop is a great idea, someone with a smattering of excel knowledge can have all the additions done instantly, with far less room for error. That being said, I think the scores should still be radioed back. It's the only check and balance on the matches. There were many examples of what would have happened had there not been radioed scores.

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Mike,
As you know I already have the spread sheet done in excel, its all ready to go and all that needs to be done is have the numbers inputted, it will tally them up automatically.
 
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3. Would you like to see the physical stages of this event combined with the three-gun match to form their own separate aggregate and base the overall standings on the non movement stages alone.
a. Yes
b. no leave the three gun match as a seperate event. Those that don't own and shoot handguns would be hampered with it being added in.
 
1. Positional shooting other than prone.
a. I would like to see more of it.
b. I am happy with the current mix.
c. I would prefer less positional and more prone.

2. Timed movement stages (jog from 400-300m)
a. I would like to see more of it.
b. I am happy with the current mix.
c. I would prefer less movement and more stationary.

3. Would you like to see the physical stages of this event combined with the three-gun match to form their own separate aggregate and base the overall standings on the non movement stages alone.
a. Yes This would be cool but I would think it would be best received as optional participation. That would make it lots of extra work for the few/many who choose to participate.
b. No

4. Would you prefer having a longer target down time during exposures to help prevent overheating your barrel.
a. Yes
b. No

5. Do you feel that it will make a difference in barrel life if the time span was doubled between exposures?
a. Yes But I don't care, I'll thread on a new one when this one is shot.
b. No

6. Would you be happy shooting fewer rounds over the two days as a result of making the down time longer?
a. Yes
b. No More shooting goooooood!

7. Do you feel the matches should be made;
a. More difficult
b. Same level of challenge as they are at now. I chose this option as there are a wide range of skill levels present at the shoot. If you make it to hard your going to be hard to attract new shooters to the event.
c. Less difficult.

8. The 3-gun match will be moved from the Sunday to either the Saturday on Friday evening. Which would you prefer?
a. Friday night
b. Saturday night.


Just my 2 cents
 
I already answered the questionnaire attached with the email.

What I would like to see is a "Target rich" stage where both shooters have to engage multiple targets in a limited amount of time. Now, that's easy for me to say, since I am shooting an AR-10 variant. (My partner is shooting a bolt).

I was wondering how the shooters at large felt about this, since barrel temperature seems to be a concern.
 
So far the replies show that people are happy with the way things are going and that they aren't concerned with barrel heat. The only item that people are split on is what afternoon to hold the three gun match.

On another note, I need people for target pullers.
If you know of anyone who would be interested please give them my contact info.
 
Sorry Mike I should have done this a while ago.



1. Positional shooting other than prone.
a. I would like to see more of it.
b. I am happy with the current mix.
c. I would prefer less positional and more prone.

2. Timed movement stages (jog from 400-300m)
a. I would like to see more of it.
b. I am happy with the current mix.
c. I would prefer less movement and more stationary.

3. Would you like to see the physical stages of this event combined with the three-gun match to form their own separate aggregate and base the overall standings on the non movement stages alone.
a. Yes
b. No

4. Would you prefer having a longer target down time during exposures to help prevent overheating your barrel.
a. Yes
b. No

5. Do you feel that it will make a difference in barrel life if the time span was doubled between exposures?
a. Yes
b. No

6. Would you be happy shooting fewer rounds over the two days as a result of making the down time longer?
a. Yes
b. No

7. Do you feel the matches should be made;
a. More difficult
b. Same level of challenge as they are at now.
c. Less difficult.

8. The 3-gun match will be moved from the Sunday to either the Saturday on Friday evening. Which would you prefer?
a. Friday night
b. Saturday night.
 
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