BD3008 vs. BD38

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[disclaimer] Ok, the last thread I started on these guns went to hell in a handbasket, so I've decided to start fresh and do my VERY BEST not to incure any ire from other forumers who may be partial to either of the dealers in Canada currently carrying SSD firearms. I do not intend to favor one supplier over the other, I am just trying to get info about the GUNS. [/disclaimer]

Some simple questions.

1) Has ANYONE bought a BD-3008 yet? If so, can you PLEASE post your impressions. Marstar brought the other 2 models to EOHC for the milshoot and I got to play with them, but I have not seen a BD3008 in person yet. A review would be even better.

2) How many magazines does the BD38 come with if purchased from Marstar? (ie, if I do not buy the "special" package) Their website is not clear on this. I would call and ask them, but I don't want to waste their time until I am ready to order the gun.

3) Does anyone know if Marstar is extending the mags and pouches special to BD-3008 owners? Again, not clear on the website but both guns originally were issued with the same mags and accessories.

4) Does anyone know if STEN buttstocks or mags fit the BD3008? SSD's website lists a T-stock model, but it appears marstar only carries the loop stock. Being able to have both options available would be really cool.

5) Given a choice, and taking price into account, what do you guys think is the better buy? The bd3008 at $2395, or the BD38 at $2949.00? (we'll use Marstar pricing only here to compare apples to apples)
 
No, BD44's take 7.62 Kurz. Last place I heard of that made it was Privi Partizan in Yugoslavia, but I haven't seen any in years... though I stand to be corrected?
 
I had the 3008 in my hands at Wolverine arms in Virden about 2 weeks back. My initial impression was that it was very stenlike, but on closer examination I noticed several small differences, mostly being that the 3008 had higher machining standards than the stens. I have never handled an origional 3008, so I cannot say whether the Germans also had the higher machining standards, but I doubt it.
The sten magazines definitely will not fit into the 3008. They are just too long front to back.

I would have bought the gun if it were not for the fact that my semi auto sten will better fit in to the theme of my collection. Yes, it looked like a $12.00 gun, but that is the beauty of it.
 
I haven't handled either of these rifles, but if I was in your shoes I'd go for the BD38, I think the classic look has more appeal over all.
 
I have handeled the BD38 and to be honest I was more than impressed! It even has the "waffenamps" (correct me if I mis-spelled) and every last detail. for the extra 5 or 600 dollars, I would definitly go for the bd38. I think if you wanted to take the gun shooting it would be more enjoyable and practical to use the bd38. Face it, even the germans would have choosen it over the 3008!
 
I too am curious, these have been available for quite some time and I have yet to see a detailed review of either.
 
BD38 hands down. Way more classic, and instantly recognizable. I'm sure with a 3008, you'd get all kinds at the range telling you your sten was crooked...
 
ollie said:
BD38 hands down. Way more classic, and instantly recognizable. I'm sure with a 3008, you'd get all kinds at the range telling you your sten was crooked...
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No... people would likely ask him if his ruger 10/22 has lost its stock!?!

A detailed review would be nice. Knowing we have board members with the stg44 copies in their collections, im hoping a review will come soon of all availble models.

BTW, no one has yet to give Claven the true gunnut advie; get both!
 
PS: I anyone's interested, I'm updating my sales ad. Some stuff is going to auction, so depending upon interest, maybe you'll get something cheap?

Stuff's being posted on milsurps.com in auciton format. The current "for sale" prices are the "Buy it now" prices.
 
These are reproductions of historical firearms. They are what they are. Neither is a modern design, with all the up to date features.
I have enough rounds through Sten guns to know that as far as shooting properties go, the 3008 is likely just fine. The original 3008s were hastily made, late in the war, for emergency use. The reproduction is likely better made of superior materials.
I have only had an opportunity to inspect a BD 38, and would very much like to examine a BD 3008.
Either is going to be an interesting shooter, and a representative specimen of a firearm that most folks are never going to be able to own or shoot.
 
If you consider the semi MG34 with new made receiver a repro, or a Norinco 1911 a repro, then yes. Though my 'rinco 1911 is more wilson combat than Norinco and is not in GI configuration.

I have no problem with the repro thing on these as originals are items I will NEVER be able to own if I live in Canada (which I do).
 
tiriaq said:
The original 3008s were hastily made, late in the war, for emergency use. The reproduction is likely better made of superior materials.
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I found , on the 3008, the corners of things like the buttstock front plate to be much sharper than the origional stens. In all likely hood the parts were machined instead of stamped. My guess is that the production numbers of the BD3008 do not warrant stamping out parts, whereas for 4 million stens, it did.
Same goes for the end cap on the recoil spring. The origionals were stamped: the BD3008 I examined loked like it was fabricated and machined on a lathe. Corners/edges again seemed squarish.

Go for the 3008 tiriaq......despite these little flaws, I found the 3008 to instantly fill the yearning for a sten. You could likely substitute origional non critical parts to get the sloppier look.
 
I am afraid I am very biased in this regard. The one BD38 I handled looked like a toy, but not because it is a toy but because that was my feeling about that family of guns. I have zero interest in them.
The commonwealth guns are more my style, and the BD3008 is a good substitue for those who like the historical significance of a country that was in such dire straights, it had to pump out guns as cheaply as possible (britain and the sten). The BD3008 also shows this; once the situation was reversed and the Germans were the ones needing "cheap and quick".

Price is a bit high on the 3008 for the amount of metal and labour involved, but really , in our Canadian market, where the walls of import seem to be 1000 feet high, I am just happy to see such a gun here.
Personally, I would like to see the 3008 priced at about $1200. Still way too high for the amount of labour and metal in it, but on the other hand the company can always make more.

Also, as I have said in my previous postings on this gun, there is a little too much quality in it, but that is just me being nitpicky.

Given the choice, I would walk out with the 3008. But that is me, and not everyone (in fact, few I suspect) thinks like me.

Edited to add an example: I bought the M1919A4, and I love it. I would not even want a MG34...not even for half the price. I suspect you are the other way around.
 
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I can appreciate a good 1919A4 too :) If they had had tripod and pintles in stock for the A4 models when I was shopping for my MG34, I would have considered one. The a6 configuration, however, held zero interest for me ;)

I am still honestly undecided between a BD3008 and a BD38.

When you inspected the BD3008, did you take note of the bolt and firing mechanism? Does it look like something that could be incorporated into your semi sten build to pass CFC scrutiny? I note that there is no arguement on what the receiver is for a BD3008 since the mag housing is welded to the receiver tube ;)
 
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