Bedding a 10/22. Does it work?

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So I have a Dlask 16" fluted barrel, DAR 22 reciever and a boyds tacticool stock. Bedding a 10/22. Does it work? I get ok groups at 50 yards(covers the end of a pop can:cheers:) I would like them a little tighter,say, the same size at 100 yards. My trigger is factory ruger but I worked it down to 2.5 lbs.(checked with a gauge) I think my weak point is my stock. I would like to bed the front of the action and the first 2 inches off the barrle. Would I be wasting my time?

B.H.
 
It's a 10/22, not a bolt action target rifle, and never will be. If you want tighter groups get a Marlin.

Seriously though, it is a waste of time yeah. Bedding will only marginally improve groups on already very accurate guns. you will not see a difference in a 2.5" group at 50m.
And like was already stated it has one action bolt.. i personally will only do a true glass bedding on bolt actions with at least dual action bolts.

Are you using the irons, scope, red dot? even a very accurate gun will group 2"+ at 50m with iron sights.
 
Some 10/22's are dam accurate with the right tweaks. A bolt gun is a bolt gun. A 10/22 is semi, of course there is going to be differences. Its like comparing apples to oranges. 2 different actions , 2 different guns.
I was just asking about a 10/22 not a marlin. Thanks any how.
 
Even without bedding I get under half inch ten shot groups at 50yds and all I did was put a green mountain barrel. 10/22's can be accurate just go on rimfirecentral and look at some of the groups those guys post
 
arcstarter said:
Even without bedding I get under half inch ten shot groups at 50yds and all I did was put a green mountain barrel. 10/22's can be accurate just go on rimfirecentral and look at some of the groups those guys post
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:agree: I too added the GM heavy bbl. I bedded the action & approx 2" of the bbl ahead of the receiver. The bedding may have reduced the groups slightly.

Since then I have gone with the Archangel target stock, this resulted in more consistency since it is far more comfortable than the Ruger target stock. This stock also has the wider forend & rides the front bag far better. I have not bedded this since it came with aan adjustable pressure point block which installs ahead of the rceiver & is adjustable with an allen head set screw.

The latest mod is a Kidd two stage trigger, expensive but well worth the price. I had installed the VQ target hammer & polished the stock trigger surfaces in the factory trigger. It was good, the pull was measured 1 1/2lbs . However it was not in the same league as the Kidd.

I gave the Ruger trigger group to a good friend with whom I shoot with regularly, since then his wife has taken over his 10/22 Target rifle. That said my wife is shooting mine & I am sure she now considers it hers. :)
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Awhile back, I bought an old late 80's era 10/22. That makes 5 in the stable..... But it had the metal TG and it was priced cheaper than a new one.....

Took it to the range and was I surprised/shocked to see that with AE 38 gr hp it was a ragged 10 shot hole at 20y.

Rifle was in OK shape (some would say poor), 75% blueing and some rust on the barrel, a bunch of paint missing on the reciever and trigger group, The stock was 'extensively' ding and scratched. I figgured that for a rifle this accurate it should look a bunch better. So I started in on it, I bought it for a project but this isn't the one I had in mind when I bought the rifle.

I tore it down and just my luck the local g-smith was just getting started with his annual blueing marathon. (He only hot blues once a year, it takes 3 weeks to get it all done, but sure saves time and effort on the set-up). I found a factory walnut (deluxe model) stock for a fair price.

By the time it was all said and done she is re-blued (just the barrel) re-painted (action and trigger group), and the stock is re-finished (danish oil).

Take it out to the range and she is 3.5" at 20 y. :eek: Crappy, I just ruined a good gun! :redface:

I took it out again but this time I took the original stock with me. First thing I noticed was the walnut stock was sloppy as heck around the sides and back of the action. With the original Birch stock it is very tight, and I mean REALLY tight, take a rubber mallet to pop the action out of the stock tight. So I put the rifle back into its birch furniture and voila! 1/2" groups again. Swap out the stocks, and the walnut one is up over 3".....

So to see if bedding the walnut stock would acutually help I started layering masking tape in the action area of the stock to take the play out of the area the action sits in.

5 layers of masking tape on the sides and 7 at the rear of the action later........ 1/2" groups!!!! w:h:

In short, bedding the barrel has little effect on accuracy. Bedding the action has a TREMENDOUS effect on accuracy. Bed the sides of the action as well as the rear of the action where the stock has the shoulder that fits in the trigger group.

YMMV
Cheers!
 
mikeystew said:
It's a 10/22, not a bolt action target rifle, and never will be. If you want tighter groups get a Marlin.

Seriously though, it is a waste of time yeah. Bedding will only marginally improve groups on already very accurate guns.
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I highly disagree and you do contradict your self in the post as well , First you say its just a 1022 not a target rifle, but then you state "marginally improve groups on already very accurate guns" ? what ?d:h: we get it you like marlin, I have built well over 20 10/22s that will outshoot a marlin anyday for the same cost . Bedding will help , but trigger pull as well
 
Bedding does help.

Stock 10/22 DSP

Pillar bedded
Glass bedded
Trigger group polished and moly lubed
Bolt polished
Tuffer Buffer

Gives this result at 50

Circles are 1" diameter

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Notsorichguy i like the tape idea.!I'm getting the font of the barrel bedded and so around the front of the action. I will see how it shoots after this . I wil try the tape later to see if that impoves anymore. To the rest thanks for the help. I think a trigger kit is in order. Hammer and sear or a full kit .
Thanks, James
 
BCboy said:
I have built well over 20 10/22s that will outshoot a marlin anyday for the same cost . Bedding will help , but trigger pull as well
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What? Really... A 795 is under $200, if I could build a 10/22 for under $200 that would outshoot a marlin I'd go into business selling them in the EE. Heck, if I could get any 10/22 for under $200 I'd sell them as is.

And my statement regarding noticeable accuracy meant that if you measure 9/16" groups that shrink to 1/2" after bedding, the difference is woth the effort if small holes is your cup of tea. That much shrinkage would be negligible on a pop can sized group.

If your action is sloppy in the stock then yeah it will grow your groups and bedding may be worth it. But only if it was a faulty action/stock fit to start with.

And sorry, i just get a kick out of people who say "my 10/22 shoots awesome groups, all i changed out was this, and this, and this, and this, and this. I see it more like replacing the gun with one that works one piece at a time rather than a "build".
 
mikeystew said:
What? Really... A 795 is under $200, if I could build a 10/22 for under $200 that would outshoot a marlin I'd go into business selling them in the EE. Heck, if I could get any 10/22 for under $200 I'd sell them as is.

And my statement regarding noticeable accuracy meant that if you measure 9/16" groups that shrink to 1/2" after bedding, the difference is woth the effort if small holes is your cup of tea. That much shrinkage would be negligible on a pop can sized group.

If your action is sloppy in the stock then yeah it will grow your groups and bedding may be worth it. But only if it was a faulty action/stock fit to start with.

And sorry, i just get a kick out of people who say "my 10/22 shoots awesome groups, all i changed out was this, and this, and this, and this, and this. I see it more like replacing the gun with one that works one piece at a time rather than a "build".
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This post is clearly about 10/22's and the OP was looking for advice on a 10/22 and has nothing to do marlins so why always say "buy a marlin " ,chevy vs ford etc....
I have bought a few 10/22s @ $150 even a couple at $125 used and they have shot quite well and yes they outshot my marlins as well .I do own marlins as well and like them too
 
I've played around with a few 10/22's and I must say that I have much better luck with accuracy improvements when the barrel is bedded first, solidly and full length, with a couple of pads of bedding added to the receiver only after the barrel bedding is completely set and hardened. I'm talking about bull barrels here, which tend to turn the barreled action into a heavy lenght of steel barrel with a dinky, lightweight little chunk of aluminum stuck on one end. It didn't seem to make sense to support that assembly by bedding the receiver first, leaving that massive barrel swinging in the breeze out front. One of my best (most accurate) projects turned out to be a 12-inch heavy Dlask barrel bedded with sillicone (!) into a Hogue stock, and with no bedding applied to the receiver at all...it was a snug fit into the stock without it.

I've also had positive results with barrels permanently affixed into receivers using Steel-Weld (I think that was the name of the stuff). No more barrel switches on those ones, but so what? They were cheap experiments, and they worked well. What more do you want?

I don't pretend to know what I'm doing...I'm just screwing around with these ideas, with very little money lost if something doesn't work out as hoped for.

John
 
Bush Hunter said:
Some 10/22's are dam accurate with the right tweaks. A bolt gun is a bolt gun. A 10/22 is semi, of course there is going to be differences. Its like comparing apples to oranges. 2 different actions , 2 different guns.
I was just asking about a 10/22 not a marlin. Thanks any how.
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Ok so you buy a Ruger that won't hit the water if you drop it from a Boat. You spend a small fortune on parts from an aftermarket supplier. Why Buy a ruger??
 
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jjohnwm said:
.... One of my best (most accurate) projects turned out to be a 12-inch heavy Dlask barrel bedded with sillicone (!) into a Hogue stock, and with no bedding applied to the receiver at all...it was a snug fit into the stock without it.......
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That's a genius idea.
I have to try that when I'll have time.
 
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