Bedding with hardware store types of metal epoxie.

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Curious whats the opinion on using JB weld and permatex types for bedding rifles?

Looking on CDNtire and homehardware there is JB weld.
Then Permatex makes a couple of products that have a higher pressure rating hence tougher?
Then I see a product called tech steel, looks to be a one piece type log that you knead together.
http://https://www.homehardware.ca/en/75g-tech-steel-epoxy-putty/p/8659490

Have a 25-06 with a synthetic stock that I want to bed and smooth out the inletting since its quite rough inside.
 
MilitaryCollectorMark said:
Curious whats the opinion on using JB weld and permatex types for bedding rifles?

Looking on CDNtire and homehardware there is JB weld.
Then Permatex makes a couple of products that have a higher pressure rating hence tougher?
Then I see a product called tech steel, looks to be a one piece type log that you knead together.
http://https://www.homehardware.ca/en/75g-tech-steel-epoxy-putty/p/8659490

Have a 25-06 with a synthetic stock that I want to bed and smooth out the inletting since its quite rough inside.
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Both will work. Not as easy to work with as a accraglass, but certainly easier to find. Devcon is another good product, usually can find it in bearing shops. - dan
 
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dan belisle said:
Both will work. Not as easy to work with as a accraglass, but certainly easier to find. Deacon is another good product, usually can find it in bearing shops. - dan
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Yes, if acraglas was sold near me I'd go that way. From what I've read Devcon and marinetex would be the best. Problem with Devcon is that it's only sold in 1lb and 4 lb. Probably would nver use all of it by the time it would go bad.
 
I have used JB Weld to bed a few rifles, mostly because of availability. Unless you are skim bedding, it is a bit on the runny side. Adding a bit of fiberglass floc can help stiffen it up a bit. If you can't find it "store bought", you can shred some bits of insulation.
 
Jonnyofalltrades said:
I have used JB Weld to bed a few rifles, mostly because of availability. Unless you are skim bedding, it is a bit on the runny side. Adding a bit of fiberglass floc can help stiffen it up a bit. If you can't find it "store bought", you can shred some bits of insulation.
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Don't bother with fibreglass flock or insulation. Just degrease some 000000 steel wool, cut it into 1/2 cm lengths and stir it into the epoxy mix.
 
Devcon has hundreds of products, in all sizes

JBWeld has metal in for strength , compressive strength over 5000 psi, tough to beat that
 
MilitaryCollectorMark said:
Yes, if acraglas was sold near me I'd go that way. From what I've read Devcon and marinetex would be the best. Problem with Devcon is that it's only sold in 1lb and 4 lb. Probably would nver use all of it by the time it would go bad.
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As mentioned, jb weld works, and it is at every Canadian tire. Cheap too. - dan
 
Jonnyofalltrades said:
I don't think I've ever seen 000000 steel wool anywhere. Where do you get it?
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I have a five gallon bucket full of 000000 Bulldog brand steel wool that I picked up on sale a long time ago.

I noticed that our local Dollar Stores in Vernon have it in small packages for a couple of bucks.

As mentioned, it has to be degreased before use.

Varsol is not a degreaser per se'.

The best way to degrease this wool is to boil it then wash with dish detergent in the hot water, then rinse and allow to dry, which it does very quickly when it's hot. DON'T cut up the steel wool before cleaning, it just creates a mess that can be tediuous to clean up.

It's great for doing a final sanding on wood or even polymer stocks, when refinishing or a new stock for the final prep before applying the finish.
 
They’ll work but why not just buy the right stuff the first time? Any decent industrial supply place will have Devcon. If not, easy to find online.
 
Devcon is mixed with metal filings for strength. It is quite viscous (good) and reasonably slow to cure (good). The West stuff is for boats, where adhesion to fiberglass is important, not strength. If you shop around, you should be able to get Devcon for less.
Chances are you are going to make a mess of your first bedding job, so go with a beater rifle and JB Weld, it has about the right consistency for building up surfaces, say up to 1/8 inch. Work in cooler temperatures if you want it to be more viscous. After that, you can decide whether serious bedding efforts are in your future plans.
 
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cosmic said:
Devcon is mixed with metal filings for strength. It is quite viscous (good) and reasonably slow to cure (good). The West stuff is for boats, where adhesion to fiberglass is important. If you shop around, you should be able to get Devcon for less.
Chances are you are going to make a mess of your first bedding job, so go with a beater rifle and JB Weld, it has about the right consistency for building up surfaces. After that, you can decide whether serious bedding efforts are in your future plans.
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Yeah, probably going to use the JB weld to get the hang of bedding stocks before I go do a expensive rifle.

From what reserch I've done, I'm probably going to go either Devcon or Marine tex, marine tex I can buy in small amounts good for around 2 rifles.
https://ebsadventure.com/products/marine-tex-2oz-white?
_pos=13&_sid=06a5ec861&_ss=r

On the Devcon stuff, I've read that they had changed the packageing on the hardener a few years ago, to a bigger container made the stuff expire sooner.
 
Canuck65 said:
They’ll work but why not just buy the right stuff the first time? Any decent industrial supply place will have Devcon. If not, easy to find online.
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That is an interesting thought that "Devcon" is the "right stuff" to use for bedding rifles. Brownells would disagree - they sell Acraglas and Acraglas Gel. I read that USMC Armourers use Marine Tex. There is multiple - many - kinds of "Devcon" - the stuff on the shelf here is "Plastic Steel Liquid (B)" - No. 10210. I also had some Devcon stuff "Plastic Steel Putty (A)" or similar name - I forget the number - that got tossed as it set up in the containers - as I think this Liquid stuff has also. Both were two part - Resin plus Hardener to mix in specified ratio - the Resin set up in the container before I got to use it. There is an expiry date on the box - "Use by" - and they are not kidding about that!!! Others on previous posts on CGN have recommended Aluminum bearing products, not steel bearing. So hard to say what is the "right stuff" to use.
 
MilitaryCollectorMark said:
Yeah, probably going to use the JB weld to get the hang of bedding stocks before I go do a expensive rifle.

From what reserch I've done, I'm probably going to go either Devcon or Marine tex, marine tex I can buy in small amounts good for around 2 rifles.
https://ebsadventure.com/products/marine-tex-2oz-white?
_pos=13&_sid=06a5ec861&_ss=r

On the Devcon stuff, I've read that they had changed the packageing on the hardener a few years ago, to a bigger container made the stuff expire sooner.
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I'm guessing your "reserch" is based on net surfing. I bought a 1 lb container of Devcon aluminum going on 15 years ago. Its gotten more viscous over the years, however, all I do is warm it up by letting the epoxy container sit in hot water for a few minutes, all is good. BTW - If you buy aluminum based product, you get more for your money compared to steel.
 
cosmic said:
I'm guessing your "reserch" is based on net surfing. I bought a 1 lb container of Devcon aluminum going on 15 years ago. Its gotten more viscous over the years, however, all I do is warm it up by letting the epoxy container sit in hot water for a few minutes, all is good. BTW - If you buy aluminum based product, you get more for your money compared to steel.
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That's intersting! Is both parts still good? Not 100% sure but I think the hardener that goes bad?
 
cosmic said:
I'm guessing your "reserch" is based on net surfing. I bought a 1 lb container of Devcon aluminum going on 15 years ago. Its gotten more viscous over the years, however, all I do is warm it up by letting the epoxy container sit in hot water for a few minutes, all is good. BTW - If you buy aluminum based product, you get more for your money compared to steel.
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Yeah, I have 0 experience bedding any kind of rifle :D
 
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