Belt Fed AR15
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The argument would hinge on the distinction between each link, and the belt as a while. Between the forest and the trees, as it were.
If it is the belt as a whole that is considered the "magazine", then you putting 10 rounds together would serve as evidence that the magazine was intended for use in a pistol. The RCMP would have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that you intended, at the time of manufacture, to use it in your belt fed rifle. You could, for example, have them stored in a box labeled "pistol belts". If someone with a belt fed rifle happened to buy some from you, then it is similar to someone putting a pistol mag in a rifle.
I find it far more likely, however, that the RCMP and crown would classify them as prohibited, and charge.
Wrong .... That nasty little "reverse onus" clause means that when it comes to firearm offenses you are guilty until found innocent .... Not the other way around.
outoftowner
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- Medicine Hat, AB
Guys....Here me out here. Could not someone take a pre-1945 designed belt (I am also assuming you do not have to have one made before 1945, just designed) and spend alot of time on the sewing machine sewing the holes to fit 5.56? or would that be "illegally transforming a magazine"?
Ares Defense makes the "Shrike" which is a belt fed AR-15 upper. I saw one on the American gun auction site for $8,900 just for the upper.
Of course it was a prototype as they haven't officially gone into production. The MSRP for the production unit is about $2,500 for the upper.
They also make the Herring MSR (modular sporting rifle), which is an odd looking AR-15 that has an angled buffer tube and no pistol grip. Its very PC, I think it is made for Commiefornia.
I have had my eye on the Shrike for some time but they have taken forever to go into production. I also thought you could have as long of belts as you want. Not really worth $2,500 bucks if its limited to 5 shots.
Of course it was a prototype as they haven't officially gone into production. The MSRP for the production unit is about $2,500 for the upper.
They also make the Herring MSR (modular sporting rifle), which is an odd looking AR-15 that has an angled buffer tube and no pistol grip. Its very PC, I think it is made for Commiefornia.
I have had my eye on the Shrike for some time but they have taken forever to go into production. I also thought you could have as long of belts as you want. Not really worth $2,500 bucks if its limited to 5 shots.
The whole pistol magazine business is a bit of a red herring - there has to be an available pistol that uses the magazine. Labelling something a pistol magazine when there is no pistol won't wash.
Get a formal, written ruling from the CFP about the use of 5.56 belts.
If the answer is that there is a limit of 5 rds, that will give you an idea of whether or not you will have the opportinity to estabish case law precedent.
Get a formal, written ruling from the CFP about the use of 5.56 belts.
If the answer is that there is a limit of 5 rds, that will give you an idea of whether or not you will have the opportinity to estabish case law precedent.
You would basically be "manufacturing" a post-45 belt.
Thanks tootall, you beat me to it. It seems as though it doesn't have anything to do with cloth or not, the old cloth ones are just one of the models available. I was scouring Marstar's website and had a look at the semi-auto MG-34 they used to sell and there's a note that they came with 50 rnd non-dissintegrating metal belts.
So get yourself a few belts and combine them with one of those listed on the link you posted earlier and you'd be all set with a sweet range gun. Now to get it chambered in something cheap like 7.62x39.
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- Calgary, Alberta
Heh - If you assembled it as a pistol, you could link 10 rounds together? After all, you could say that linking the rounds together counts as manufacturing the magazine
Generally not, because the belt is designed for use with a machinegun, it would have to be bespoke to get around that.
