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Simply put...I HATE mag capacity requirements. I know marstar has some converted belt fed MGs that are unrestricted semi-auto, but are there others out there that don't cost several grand? Preferably in a cheap caliber as well.
 
Dav said:
Simply put...I HATE mag capacity requirements. I know marstar has some converted belt fed MGs that are unrestricted semi-auto, but are there others out there that don't cost several grand? Preferably in a cheap caliber as well.
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I may end up being corrected but as far as I know there is a 5rnd limit on Metal link belts. Apparently the Cloth belts are unregulated though.


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Wouldn't this be nice?
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The Rapid Fire "RF 21"

Our newest Belt Fed Semi Auto in 7.62x51

RF 21 Features:

Feed: Belt Fed

Operation: Delayed Blowback

Caliber: .308 (7.62x51mm)
Weight: 20.5lbs
Width: 5.24"
Height: 8.26"
Barrel Length: 17.72"
Retail: $6495.95
 
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lol, I wouldn't waste my time with 7.62X39 :D

7.62X54R or 7.65X51 NATO would be nice :dancingbanana: 30-06 would probably be the way to go since the belts are already around but I suppose you could use those belts for .308

I was in a gun shop a while ago and I remember the guy had a cloth belt of Swedish stuff that from what I heard was pretty plentiful. It was something weird like 6.5mm, 7mm or 8mm though. He made some comments about just taking it appart and using the components cuz there weren't many rifles around for it.
 
Sorry Wally, but you need correcting!

the AGE is what determines belts. Anything pre-1945 is OK.
So obviously, no go for a 223 belt.
The MG34 that Marstar sells uses a metal non-disintegrating 50 round belt. And they can be connected to make 100 or 150 or more!
 
tootall said:
Sorry Wally, but you need correcting!

the AGE is what determines belts. Anything pre-1945 is OK.
So obviously, no go for a 223 belt.
The MG34 that Marstar sells uses a metal non-disintegrating 50 round belt. And they can be connected to make 100 or 150 or more!
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No apology nessisary ;) I'll remember that for next time (But may end up being corrected again :p)
 
And just when I thought the gun laws couldent get more convoluded....

Whats everyone got against 7.62x39? How is that wasting time?

If I had something belt fed in the commie caliber I would wase a lot of time with it. And a lot of ammo.:D Actually..I would prefer it in the caliber as I am cheap:rolleyes:

Hoping also for under a grand...but I may be dreaming...
 
I have a kit to convert the 1919 to 7.62x39 It has a bunch of links as well, but you would need to find a link that existed in 1945 to be able to use more than 5 at a time.
Does anyone have a belt loading machine?
And no, I am not willing to sell the kit.
Under a grand... I am rather certain those days will never exist..Unless you know a widow who does not know the value of what she has..
I have a lm7 upper that is worth more than double that.. and that is only the upper.
 
There ARE a couple of belt-fed 22s out there as well; Tippmann made a number of their 1/4 scale 22 MGs in semi, and Lakeside Guns (the same people who bought the rights to the Tippmanns) also make a belt-fed 22 LR upper for ARs.
 
the only reason i said 7.62x39 is because its so darn cheap thus making it ideal. but if you cant use a post 1945 gun then making a belt-fed gun in that caliber would be useless as it would be limited to 5 rounds anyway. :(
 
It should not matter how old the gun or the origins are as long as the feeding device is of the ancestry of 1945.. like the mg34 doppel mags are O.K. You could mount that on anything and it should be legal.
 
Links are A OK! IF they are the orig 30.06 links from ww2 I have several K of them NIB's 20 links per box made in 1944

That swedish ammo is 8x63 mm

you can ream out an 8mm mauser barrel to take this ammo it is VERY powerfull it makes the 1919 bounce around on the m2 tripod even with the feet kicked into the dirt

its supposed to be 15% more powerful then the 30.06 but not sure if thats true

It is cheap but there is not TONs and it wont be around for ever a 250 rnd belt of goes real fast even with a semi auto only gun!

marstar got it by mistake I think they were told it was 8mm mauser. I was told they only got a few hundred thousand rnds I got 5K of it and its allmost gone.....

you can buy one from marstar for 3K or so

OR import a reciver (right side plate) semi auto ONLY (has a raised rib to prevent FA bolt install)

get a parts kit have the internals milled to fit and operate semi auto only buy the semi sear and trigger and rivit kit

you can do your own 1919a4 for around 1K canadian not counting a tripod pintle and T&E
 
yeah the RPD would just be there

It should not matter how old the gun or the origins are as long as the feeding device is of the ancestry of 1945.. like the mg34 doppel mags are O.K. You could mount that on anything and it should be legal.
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you might be getting your hopes up for that one
the FN MAG,(C6) the minimi,m249 (C9) , M60 (POS) and MG5 all the same feed sytem
 
Oh sure you are complaning about mag capacity on semi auto. You decide to get the beltfed semi auto... and then your realy pissed that we can't have one in full auto ! :(

Then there is the ammo bill... if you can find ammo(saskatchewan sucks for surpluss).
 
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The belts don't have to be pre-45....they just have to be made for a gun that was in production pre 45. So a 1950 dated M1919 belt is not regulated. And just because you squeeze .308 into the origionally 30-06 belt, it's still ok.

The stuff you will find on belts these days is the 8mm swede from Marstar. It comes on belts, and is extremely cheap. In fact, it is so cheap, you could almost call it free. Once you shoot the belt, you can sell the cloth belt to the US shooters for almost as much as the ammo cost in the first place.
I bought 22000 rounds of the stuff. Still trying to find a 8mm barrel for my 1919 so I can shoot the stuff. I may just pick up a 8mm barrel blank and make the barrel myself.

If you go with one of the Marstar M1919s without the tripod, their price is about $2800. Thats about the cheapest belt fed in this country.
 
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The belts don't have to be pre-45....they just have to be made for a gun that was in production pre 45. So a 1950 dated M1919 belt is not regulated. And just because you squeeze .308 into the origionally 30-06 belt, it's still ok.

The stuff you will find on belts these days is the 8mm swede from Marstar. It comes on belts, and is extremely cheap. In fact, it is so cheap, you could almost call it free. Once you shoot the belt, you can sell the cloth belt to the US shooters for almost as much as the ammo cost in the first place.
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Could those 8mm Swede belts be used for anything else? Could you get 30-06 into em?
 
Soooo just to throw gasoline on the fire... What about disintgrating links? By themselves, their ammunition capacity is 1. You have to stick ammunition inside them to up the 'capacity' and get beyond the magical 5 limit.
 
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