Beretta 686 xtrap?

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Was the Beretta 686 or 686onyx xtrap left handed available in Canada? If so what was the going price and what would a good used one be worth?

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Beretta did make them but finding any left handed XTrap in Canada is rare.
Right handed used 686 Xtraps are usually in the 1500 - 2500 range and used 682 XTraps are 2500 to 3500 range. That's for double guns but combo's are obviously more. If you can find a left handed gun it should be fairly similar in price but demand does play a part.
 
For what reason is a 686 less money the the 682? I understood the were quite similar? Would it be possible or feasable to get a left handed stock out of the us?

Theres a 682 combo on here now but its right handed. I wonder what it would cost to get a left hand stock for it.
 
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The 686 and 682 are internally the same but externally not so much. The early 682's called the S682 had a wider receiver than the subsequent 682 and 682 Gold E models, the interesting part of this is that Beretta went to a narrower receiver for a few years but has since gone back to the wider receiver in the 692. The ASE model had the wide receiver also but it got narrowed down on the DT-10 then widened back out again on the Dt-11. 682 aficionados maintain that the S682 was a more durable gun than the narrow receiver 682's and it might have been but most people will never wear out a 682 or 682 Gold E either. The 682's have an adjustable trigger, replaceable shoulder lugs (although I've never known anyone to change them out) usually a wider rib and sometimes a heavier stock. I say sometimes because you never really know what Beretta is going to do on any particular model. The 682 has Optima bores and choke tubes and many believe this is a better system than the Mobil barrels found on most (but not all) 686's. The later 686's seem to mostly have Optima barrels too. The 686 was intended to be more of a field model than the 682 but it has morphed into target models such as the 686 XTrap and sporting models as well. 686 Xtraps and 682 XTraps have heavier stocks, fuller fore ends and higher ribs than the sporting models and the extra weight of the wood soaks up recoil over long days of shooting trap. The 686 is a great gun and the 682 is just a little bit greater, I've had several 686's and 682's and never regretted spending the extra money on the 682 but that isn't to take anything away from the 686's either.
The first place I'd look for a left hand stock would be Joel Etchen, Numrich or various other places in the states, not saying you won't find one in Canada but I wouldn't hold my breath!
 
There are a few around. I've helped a couple of guys find guns and wood in the States and get them up here. You are more likely to find left hand wood on a 682 than a 686 (at least in my experience). To add to Falconflyer's comments, the 686 is the basic "Chevy" of the Beretta line, the 682 is the "target" version and the 687 is the pretty version. Within the 680 series guns, all of the parts are interchangeable, sometimes without fitting (which should always be checked by someone qualified). Rib and comb heights vary, so, your comb and rib must match or you may see the back of the rib or all of the rib. The only exception is the 685, which is somewhat of an orphan. I've even seen 687 wood on a 682 receiver (looks funny without the side plates).

Many of the older 68X guns have more neutral stocks on them, which some leftys shoot well. You could purchase a right handed or neutral gun up here and probably find a lefty stock in the USA. Joel Etchen, as Falconflyer mentioned, would be my first place to look. Other big target shotgun dealers would also be worth checking as well as Wenig Gun Stocks. I've also had great luck on Trapshooters.com.

The main thing to keep in mind is that the rib and comb heights must match. For example, a sporting stock will not be high enough at the comb to be able to see the beads on an X Trap ribbed barrel, you will see the back of the rib.
 
That's correct, a single barrel with the barrel in the lower position is called an "unsingle" and a single barrel in the top position is just a single. Often the combo will have the single barrel a couple of inches longer than the double barrel to add a bit of weight at the muzzle to make the single barrel feel more like the double barrel, this makes it easier to switch between the two. The unsingle will obviously have a high rib to compensate for the low barrel position.
Another feature if the XTrap is the ability to lock the barrel selector in one position with a screw so that the selector isn't accidentally pushed to the wrong barrel when using the single. I'm not actually sure if the 686 has this but all of the 682's I've seen do.
 
Another possibilty here is to have the right hand stock cast bent to left hand. There are a few places acroos Canada that do this and it is much less expensive than new replacement wood. The 682X will have a right hand palm swell but this shouldn't be a problem for a left handed shooter if the stock is bent.
 
Cole Gunsmithing is showing piles of lefty 682 stocks, including Monte Carlo trap stocks. They are great to deal with and will answer any questions you have.
 
TrxR said:
For what reason is a 686 less money the the 682? I understood the were quite similar? Would it be possible or feasable to get a left handed stock out of the us?

Theres a 682 combo on here now but its right handed. I wonder what it would cost to get a left hand stock for it.
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I bought my 686 XTrap Silver Pigeon 34" single back in 2006. The wood was much plainer than the 682 XTraps and the barrels did not have replaceable barrels lugs. Not a big deal. When my 686 wore and started popping upon after firing, the gunsmith just put in oversized lugs and replaced the opening lever spring.

I bought a set of 32" over under barrels from Joel Etchen in 2009 and then a 682 trap stock / forearm set and the adjustable length trigger in 2013.

As others have said - Joel Etchen or Cole will have left handed take off stocks. Getting them to ship to Canada might not be that easy.

The older 686s had a nice silver pigeon receiver, the newer ones are plain jane.

Great gun. Still have but haven't shot it since 2016.
 
Have you ever seen problems with barrel regulation on these? On another forum there was guys taliking about the bottom barrel shooting high and right where the top shooting low and left.
 
TrxR said:
Have you ever seen problems with barrel regulation on these? On another forum there was guys taliking about the bottom barrel shooting high and right where the top shooting low and left.
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My over under barrels were newer 682 barrels with the Optima chokes . They shot straight.
 
TrxR said:
Have you ever seen problems with barrel regulation on these? On another forum there was guys taliking about the bottom barrel shooting high and right where the top shooting low and left.
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The only Beretta I ever shot that wasn't regulated perfectly was a 682 Xtrap, the bottom barrel shot about 60/40 and the top barrel shot perfectly flat which actually worked well for doubles. That's not to say there isn't some poorly regulated Beretta's out there, only that I've never seen one. Now older Citori's are an entirely different story, I've seen lots of them that have entirely different points of impact for each barrel. Before I start getting flack from all the browning people, let me clarify that this was only on older Citori's, mostly pre-choke tube models.
 
I've had a couple of Brownings with fixed chokes that were not properly regulated, both showed evidence of amateur attempts to open them. Joe the plumber with his pipe reamer.......grrrrrrr.
 
Barrel regulation can be a problem with any shotgun, so that is one reason why they have patterning boards. It may not be a problem with barrels, either, it could be a choke tube.

The bottom barrel on a "trap" shotgun should shoot 10% higher than the top barrel. All the others (skeet, sporting and field) should shoot both barrels in the same place.
 
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Barrel regulation can be a problem with any shotgun, so that is one reason why they have patterning boards. It may not be a problem with barrels, either, it could be a choke tube.

The bottom barrel on a "trap" shotgun should shoot 10% higher than the top barrel. All the others (skeet, sporting and field) should shoot both barrels in the same place.
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Interesting that you should say that. I always wondered if the 682 X was set up that way on purpose but no one I talked to knew. None of the Browning trap guns that I've had shot the bottom barrel higher than the top..... but perhaps that was just me not noticing 10% difference.
 
Falconflyer said:
Interesting that you should say that. I always wondered if the 682 X was set up that way on purpose but no one I talked to knew. None of the Browning trap guns that I've had shot the bottom barrel higher than the top..... but perhaps that was just me not noticing 10% difference.
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LOL, just because they are supposed to be, doesn't mean they are ... The theory is that the first shot in doubles is at a rapidly rising target and the second target is starting to flatten out.
 
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