Beretta 692 b-fast vs 694 black,
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The 694 is the latest Sporter following a major design change focused on balance and stock fit. I would still give it a good look over and try to shoot it before buying, but based on the reviews, I would choose the 694. It sounds like they addressed the “Beretta fit” and recoil issues many had with the 680 series.
Falconflyer
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The 694 is the newer version of the 692 which has been discontinued. Beretta has changed the ergonomics of the stock a bit and got rid of the Schnabel fore end and aside from cosmetic's there doesn't seem to be a lot more differences that can be seen. Presumably Beretta changed the ejectors which did give some people grief on the 692's but other than that I don't think they've changed much else. The 692 should also have the balancing system in the stock, mine did. I never had any problems with my 692 in the 3 years that I shot it and I thought the ergonomics were fine but there you have it, you can't change something then say it's not as good as the old one.
The "black" edition's that Beretta came out with a few years ago have a carbon fiber rib and a flat black finish that seems to be all the rage these days. Every where you look, cars, guns, motorcycles, they all seem to have a flat black option which personally I don't care for but each to their own. Gun manufacturers love the flat concept because they don't have to spend as much time polishing metal to get a deep rich bluing job and they charge more for the black because it's popular so they make good money doing it.
I shot Beretta Sporting guns for many years starting with a BL-4, then a 686 Sporting, then 3 different 682 Gold E's, then the 692 and I can say without any reservations that I'd go back to a 682 or 692 any time. They fit me well, they handle very well, they're extremely durable and kick less than any other over and under in that weight range that I've tried, and I've tried lots of others. My wife also shoots a 30 inch 682 Gold E Sporting and loves it.
New 692's with the B fast system have typically sold in the $4600 to $5000 range and I paid less than that for mine when it was new. I haven't seen any retail pricing on the 694's yet but no doubt they will be a little bit more plus a premium for the black edition's.
Trap guns don't typically work that well for sporting clays as they are normally specialized for rising targets and as you undoubtedly know, sporting targets present all kinds of different angles.
The "black" edition's that Beretta came out with a few years ago have a carbon fiber rib and a flat black finish that seems to be all the rage these days. Every where you look, cars, guns, motorcycles, they all seem to have a flat black option which personally I don't care for but each to their own. Gun manufacturers love the flat concept because they don't have to spend as much time polishing metal to get a deep rich bluing job and they charge more for the black because it's popular so they make good money doing it.
I shot Beretta Sporting guns for many years starting with a BL-4, then a 686 Sporting, then 3 different 682 Gold E's, then the 692 and I can say without any reservations that I'd go back to a 682 or 692 any time. They fit me well, they handle very well, they're extremely durable and kick less than any other over and under in that weight range that I've tried, and I've tried lots of others. My wife also shoots a 30 inch 682 Gold E Sporting and loves it.
New 692's with the B fast system have typically sold in the $4600 to $5000 range and I paid less than that for mine when it was new. I haven't seen any retail pricing on the 694's yet but no doubt they will be a little bit more plus a premium for the black edition's.
Trap guns don't typically work that well for sporting clays as they are normally specialized for rising targets and as you undoubtedly know, sporting targets present all kinds of different angles.
If your CG Trap has an adjustable comb and choke tubes why not use it for sporting clays? Many clay guns these days are looking more and more like trap guns. Change the point of impact to 60/40 or 50/50 and there's no reason you can't use it for sporting.
Falconflyer
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Yes, the 692 is no longer in production, but I don't know what you mean about "design modification required". A non black 694 should be a bit less money than the black one if you can find it.
As good as the 694 looks to be, I wouldn't get too hung up on it being a better gun, there's nothing wrong with a good used 682 or 692 if you decided you want a cheaper gun than the 694. I've seem many 682's go over a hundred thousand rounds to the first rebuild with proper care and lubrication, even then a rebuild is fairly cheap.
Falconflyer
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If you like the CG's then maybe you should consider a CG Summit Sporting, they're a bit cheaper than the Beretta models your talking about. I have one in 20 g with 30 inch barrels and it's a sweet handling gun with awesome wood!
Finally went to the gun store, the 692 black really catches my eyes. However, the stock is too long for me. I'm 5"4. I may need to cut 3/4 inch. Bcus of the adjustable comb, it may be cutting too close to the comb area. I have attached the photos. I don't want to buy it & find out later I can't cut it shorter
Any advice? Or I should just forget abt the 692 black. Thx
https://photos.app.goo.gl/PDxxBuAqUHMiCPhSA
Any advice? Or I should just forget abt the 692 black. Thx
https://photos.app.goo.gl/PDxxBuAqUHMiCPhSA
Falconflyer
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I would want to have at least 3/16th inches of wood between the pad and the adjustable comb. I'm not home right now and I don't have a gun here to look at but I'm guessing you can cut maybe a half inch or so off before getting too close to the comb. So if that isn't short enough then maybe you should look at fixed comb guns that fit but need to be shortened by a bit more than half an inch. You should remember that a gun that is a bit too short is easier to shoot than a gun that's a bit too long, but a slightly short gun is quite a bit harder to re-sell than a slightly long gun.
mebiuspower
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694 Black does not exist, yet.
Falconflyer
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Another option might be a gun without an adjustable comb and have one added, it could be a little farther forward. or on the gun in question, make the cut as close as practical to the adjustable comb and then use a thinner butt pad. There also gun models by Caesar Guerini, Beretta and others that are stocked specifically for the ladies, these usually have higher, sometimes adjustable combs, more drop, shorter length of pull, slimmer grip areas, tighter radius grip to put the hand closer to the trigger guard and the trigger, and a few other tweaks. These guns are a great option for smaller statured shooters, especially the ladies and are finally showing up after decades of requests by these shooters. The problem is, at this time it is very hard to find one in stock( at least in Canada) to check fit and they are more expensive than standard models.
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mebiuspower
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I'm not going by their website. This gun just came out and there's no black version available.
Falconflyer
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Ok, I wasn't saying that you're wrong, just that Beretta's website is seldom up to date.
I guess I need to ask the dealer again.
I have my CG Syren. It fits me perfectly. I wish more gun manufacturer have the stock made for smaller ppl. It is a challenge to add extra cost on everything I want to buy bcus the stock is too long or needs to add adjustable comb .
I tried the Beretta Victoria. It just doesn't feel right compare w the CG. Blaser F16 fits well but based on my research, it seems that it is a bit over priced for F16.
I feel you pain when you say you wish manufacturers made stocks for smaller people. Only my problem is the opposite of yours. I wish you could buy 15 3/8” LOP’s. Just be happy it is easier to cut than add. I add 1 1/8” recoil pads, but they do not look great and can change the balance of the gun.
