Beretta 92FS for IPSC

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I am thinking of getting into IPSC and IPDA and want to use a 9mm. Will the Beretta 92FS be a good gun for this.

Please share your experiences. If you have a better choice in the same price range I am open to other options.

Thanks and have a happy holiday season.
 
Anything is fine in IPSC when you start off. In the beginning the most of you score has to do with efficiency in movement running between targets. As long as you hit the paper when you get there, you are fine.
 
Just an FYI:

Top 20 production list from Greece IPSC 2011 World Shoot:

1 Vogel, Robert USA Glock 17
2 Stoeger, Ben USA Beretta 92FS
3 Mink, Matthew USA CZ 75 SP-01 Shadow
4 De Cobos, Eduardo ESP Sig Sauer P226 X-Five Allround
5 Lejano, Jeufro Emil PHI CZ 75 SP-01 Shadow
6 Manni, Matti FIN Tanfoglio Stock II
7 VYSNY, MARIAN SVK CZ 75 SP-01 Shadow
8 Momcilovic, Ljubisa SER CZ 75 SP-01 Shadow
9 PICHUGIN, ALEXEY RUS CZ 75 SP-01 Shadow
10 APLETAL, MIROSLAV CZE CZ 75 SP-01 Shadow
11 Gyllenberg, Rasmus SWE Y CZ 75 SP-01 Shadow
12 Vinduska, Vaclav CZE Grand Power K100
13 Moreira, Galo ECU CZ 75 SP-01 Shadow
14 HRNCIARIK, ANDREJ J SVK CZ 75 SP-01 Shadow
15 Brocanelli, Paolo ITA Tanfoglio Stock II
16 Drolet, Jean Philippe CAN Y CZ 75 SP-01 Shadow
17 Nagy, Ernest SVK Grand Power K100
18 Zuccolo, Giovanni ITA Tanfoglio Stock II
19 Franjo, Nadj CRO HS2000
20 Ibanez, Gorka Walther P99
 
twinter said:
Anything is fine in IPSC when you start off. In the beginning the most of you score has to do with efficiency in movement running between targets. As long as you hit the paper when you get there, you are fine.
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I think you want to say accuracy. Just hitting the paper means careless shooting, means misses, means aggravation.
Movement is something what comes with time and experience. I am not talking movement as running but rather ability to solve the stage with least effort and best accuracy.
Accuracy is what wins in IPSC.
 
While the Beretta 92 would not be my choice, I must also mention that: it is still the overwhelming choice of the United States military (and it will continue to be for the next decade, at least); Ken Hackathorn has called it the world's most reliable sidearm, the one he would choose if he really needed to carry a new-from-the-box, unfired, pistol; Ernest Langdon has proven that one can be used to win major matches, and; I have been beaten by a slow-moving senior citizen with his well-used Beretta 92FS.

It's your decision to make, not ours. If a Beretta is your choice, don't let anybody tell you it won't work for IPSC.

"It's not the gun, it's the nut behind the butt." - Louis Awerbuck
 
I have owned a 92FS before. It was a good gun but not the most accurate in my collection. I am better with a 45 1911 style.

I see from the list that CeeZer posted that the CZ 75 Shadow is a very popular model. I may have to look at it too!.

My other option is a glock 34 which seems to have a good reputation but I don't see it in the list above. Anyone have any input on this?

Keep the advice coming please.
 
The Glock 34 is an excellent choice for IDPA SSP and ESP, but cannot be used for IPSC production. It would do ok in standard, albeit shooting for minor score.
Something can be said for sticking with one pistol for both sports, but not much fun if you want to give a collection a workout.

Learning the games can be done with anything on the lists of approved guns, and starting off getting your hits is a good way to go about things.
 
for tbrwlf: as an addendum to the above post, to be on the approved gun list for IPSC Production the barrell must be no longer than 5 inches.......the barrell on the Glock 34 is 5.31 ", the model most preferred if using a Glock on the approved gun list is the Glock 17
 
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I shoot a M9 solely because I had it before I knew any better and got into ipsc. I love the gun but performance wise I would rather have a SP-01 Shadow to shoot production, I feel handicapped next to the guys shooting those. I think Ill save my shekels for an SVI Infinity Open gun and be done with it. I do Love my M9 though, I think they have class.
 
Note from ceezer's post above that there is only one Beretta in the top 20, with steel framed and polymer framed guns with steel inserts making up the rest of the total. So one can't say that a Beretta can't be competitive in IPSC; it obviously can be. Ergonomically they are fine (depending on your personal taste), accuracy wise they are equal to any other production level gun out there so that stuff is a wash. The real issue is the aluminum frame. The typical high round counts of IPSC competition and practice tend to beat on guns quite a lot more than is generally intended in a duty-type gun. Aluminum, unlike steel or polymer can work-harden and fail suddenly and it also wears faster.

All that said; if the gun suits you then use it in good health until and if a time comes when you have had a chance to play with some of the different options out there and can identify a platform that suits you better. Otherwise, I say save your money.

Good luck.
 
race1911 said:
for tbrwlf: as an addendum to the above post, to be on the approved gun list for IPSC Production the barrell must be no longer than 5 inches.......the barrell on the Glock 34 is 5.31 ", the model most preferred if using a Glock on the approved gun list is the Glock 17
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Where is this list of which you speak. I've looked around and can't find anything.
 
CeeZer said:
Just an FYI:

Top 20 production list from Greece IPSC 2011 World Shoot:

1 Vogel, Robert USA Glock 17
2 Stoeger, Ben USA Beretta 92FS
3 Mink, Matthew USA CZ 75 SP-01 Shadow
4 De Cobos, Eduardo ESP Sig Sauer P226 X-Five Allround
5 Lejano, Jeufro Emil PHI CZ 75 SP-01 Shadow
6 Manni, Matti FIN Tanfoglio Stock II
7 VYSNY, MARIAN SVK CZ 75 SP-01 Shadow
8 Momcilovic, Ljubisa SER CZ 75 SP-01 Shadow
9 PICHUGIN, ALEXEY RUS CZ 75 SP-01 Shadow
10 APLETAL, MIROSLAV CZE CZ 75 SP-01 Shadow
11 Gyllenberg, Rasmus SWE Y CZ 75 SP-01 Shadow
12 Vinduska, Vaclav CZE Grand Power K100
13 Moreira, Galo ECU CZ 75 SP-01 Shadow
14 HRNCIARIK, ANDREJ J SVK CZ 75 SP-01 Shadow
15 Brocanelli, Paolo ITA Tanfoglio Stock II
16 Drolet, Jean Philippe CAN Y CZ 75 SP-01 Shadow
17 Nagy, Ernest SVK Grand Power K100
18 Zuccolo, Giovanni ITA Tanfoglio Stock II
19 Franjo, Nadj CRO HS2000
20 Ibanez, Gorka Walther P99
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This is interesting. There are 10 out of 20 CZ's Shadows and although the gun isn't the choice of the #1 or #2 that sure says something.

Although, putting it into perspective, the top 20 shooters in the world could probably still be in the top 20 shooting almost any production gun. They are just that good I would expect.
 
Mark Mags - please note that just because a gun is on IPSC's list of Production Div. approved HGs, this does not mean that each one is best or ideally suited to IPSC competition. Some may be terrible choices for you, yet they're still "Production-legal".

To find a gun that suits you, try shooting a bunch of Production-listed guns, until you find the one(s) that you can shoot best. If you show up at an IPSC practice, I am sure many will let you shoot a mag or two from their competition HG. Try shooting them "IPSC-style" which means rapid fire, clearing malfunctions, changing mags.
 
I agree that if you have the beretta or really like somthing about it go nuts, shoot it and have fun. if you haven't bought one yet, get a shadow. I absolutely love mine. or as already mentioned test them out at your locl range, most guys don't mind letting you try it. OR the best solution BUY BOTH!
 
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