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Hi, I was wondering about a bit of a problem I have with my Beretta 682 Gold E. Usually when the gun is closed the safety automatically locks, but on this gun I can close it shut and the safety stays in the firing position until I flip it shut. Is there some kind of mechanical problem with this? I was told it might be because the original owner has made it this way for trap shooting so he didn't always have to deal with the safety, could this be true? If not, what would it take to reverse this safety back to locking when the gun is loaded and closed?? Thanks for your help.........................
 
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There is no bigger pain in the butt then an automatic safety. Be happy that gun doesn't have one.
Like anything, it takes time to get used to it.
 
Your below statement is confusing,

"Usually when the gun is closed the safety automatically locks, but on this gun I can close it shut and the safety stays in the firing position until I flip it shut."

Are you saying that this particular shotgun did at one time reset the safety and now does not ? Or did you mean a previously owned Beretta shotgun did and wonder why this one does not ?

The 682 Gold E is a target shotgun and is not produced with an auto-safety.
A field gun often will have an auto-safety.
 
planemaker said:
Your below statement is confusing,

"Usually when the gun is closed the safety automatically locks, but on this gun I can close it shut and the safety stays in the firing position until I flip it shut."

Are you saying that this particular shotgun did at one time reset the safety and now does not ? Or did you mean a previously owned Beretta shotgun did and wonder why this one does not ?

The 682 Gold E is a target shotgun and is not produced with an auto-safety.
A field gun often will have an auto-safety.
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Sorry for the confusion, what I meant to say is. This gun is new to me and I don't know if it did or didn't reset at one time. A previous Beretta I owned did reset, and I just wondered if this gun has a mechanism fault or was changed at one point? I love this gun but was just wondering about this one question, THAN######
 
No prob just wanted to be clear. I have heard of safeties resetting from recoil when they should not have.

As others have noted, autosafeties on target guns are a pox and can cost scores in competition. Basically when target shooting, the gun action is open and the only time shells are in the gun is when the shooter is in position and his turn to shoot. Adding the unneeded step to set the safety to fire has caused the trigger to be pulled with no boom and scored a miss.
Quite different than in the field hunting when shells are in the gun so one is ready to shoot at a split second opportunity. Even so, I prefer a manual safety in the field as I constantly verify it is in safe rather than blindly rely on the gun doing so itself.
 
planemaker said:
No prob just wanted to be clear. I have heard of safeties resetting from recoil when they should not have.

As others have noted, autosafeties on target guns are a pox and can cost scores in competition. Basically when target shooting, the gun action is open and the only time shells are in the gun is when the shooter is in position and his turn to shoot. Adding the unneeded step to set the safety to fire has caused the trigger to be pulled with no boom and scored a miss.
Quite different than in the field hunting when shells are in the gun so one is ready to shoot at a split second opportunity. Even so, I prefer a manual safety in the field as I constantly verify it is in safe rather than blindly rely on the gun doing so itself.
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Well, theres my answer, thanks so much. I suppose what I thought I would do if it was or wasn't a mechanism fault was to get it fixed so it would reset, but after reading your answer, I will take it for what it is and get in the habit of loading and setting the safety.......... Thanks again
 
An auto safety is only found on beretta field/game guns not sporting models like yours.
They are ffffing annoying at best,, if you don't have the mind to keep the gun broken until your ready or engage the safety yourself like on a rifle then may be guns are the best thing to play with.
 
Safeties are an abomination on any shotgun. Not that they're entirely a bad idea, but similar to gun registries, they can't be relied upon. Any safety device that can't be depended upon is a menace - they can lull the unwary into a sense of safety and then fail, or fail to engage.

Muzzle awareness is and always has been the best safety available.

I'm fine with no safety on a shotgun. I can live with a manual safety. But I curse the bastards that came up with the idea of an auto safety, those who build them, and those that promote their use.

In the field, I'm happiest with a fine open-hammer sidelock. I hunt with the hammers cocked. It's an ingrained habit for me to check visually occasionally, and with my hands often. If fact, the ability to check the status of my gun with my hands, and not take my eyes off the hunt, is one of the things I like about open-hammers.

On the line at Trap, I can't think of anything that would be more annoying than losing a target to an auto-safety.
 
Most of you have totally opened up my eyes to having an automatic safety as opposed to a manual one. I for one would have been lulled into the idea of the safety automatically locking. My original question was about this safety malfunctioning, which it wasn't, and I got more than I bargained for and am happy for it. I think many people could benefit from reading this thread whether they have an automatic safety or a manual one. There is many well informed people on here and with the advise I have been given I will be a better shotgunner and obviously a safer one....................................................
 
BadRonald said:
Out of curiosity, anyone know if a model that never had an auto safety to begin with can be retrofitted with one?
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I'd give the least useful answer, ‘Depends.’

If the gun without auto re-setting safety is built on the same frame as a model with auto safety, it's possible that all the necessary elements are in place, and you could just order the spare parts from the manufacturer. Otherwise you might need to cut a channel and insert some moving parts, can't really say.

One shotgun that I removed the auto safety from went like this:

There's a slot cut in the front of the receiver where a connecting lever inserts. This lever is pushed when you break open the barrels. The connector has several twists and fits in between the hammers and sears, then bends upwards to touch the inside of the safety switch mechanism. It will push the switch back when it moves.

Suppose that if you're good at machining/fabricating, you could find a way to jury-rig something on almost any gun. Likely by connecting something to the cocking bars.
 
More importantly, most guns with "automatic" safeties can be fairly easily switched over to being "manual" safeties.

Interesting to note ... some of the older high quality single barrel trap guns were manufactured without provision for any safety whatsoever.
 
beretta boy said:
More importantly, most guns with "automatic" safeties can be fairly easily switched over to being "manual" safeties.

Interesting to note ... some of the older high quality single barrel trap guns were manufactured without provision for any safety whatsoever.
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Even today on some guns such as the Krieghoff K80, the owner can lock out the safety so it doesn't operate at all. While I hate auto safetys on o/u target guns with a passion and agree that no safety auto or otherwise is a substitute for good muzzle control I don't mind them on hunting sxs and can transition between the two quite easily.
 
straightshooter said:
Safeties are an abomination on any shotgun. Not that they're entirely a bad idea, but similar to gun registries, they can't be relied upon. Any safety device that can't be depended upon is a menace - they can lull the unwary into a sense of safety and then fail, or fail to engage.

Muzzle awareness is and always has been the best safety available.

I'm fine with no safety on a shotgun. I can live with a manual safety. But I curse the bastards that came up with the idea of an auto safety, those who build them, and those that promote their use.

In the field, I'm happiest with a fine open-hammer sidelock. I hunt with the hammers cocked. It's an ingrained habit for me to check visually occasionally, and with my hands often. If fact, the ability to check the status of my gun with my hands, and not take my eyes off the hunt, is one of the things I like about open-hammers.

On the line at Trap, I can't think of anything that would be more annoying than losing a target to an auto-safety.
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The only thing I can think of that is more annoying than a safety on a target gun is a safety on a hammer double!!
What were they thinking!

At least the ne eon my Pedersoli is a manual, but it does nothing because it's never needed - if I decide not to fire I simply open the gun up!
Cat
 
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