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Has anyone ever shot a Beretta that has a stock like this one for trap ??

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The reason I am asking is that although the butt has an adj. comb it appears that the whole stock is slanted like a field gun as opposed to other Berettas that has a more straight comb. So I guess what I am asking is that if you have shot one like this before does it bite your cheek?? and can it be adjusted so that the gun shoots a high pattern ( 70-30 ??). Also how does did it feel recoil wise ???
Thanks.
 
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Are you sure it's a Trap gun? Looks more like a Sporting Clay's gun. What model is it?
 
jacky said:
Has anyone ever shot a Beretta that has a stock like this one for trap ??

...shot one like this before does it bite your cheek??

and can it be adjusted so that the gun shoots a high pattern ( 70-30 ??).

Also how does did it feel recoil wise ???
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If the stock is properly adjusted and fitted, you should not have any cheek bite. Adjust the LOP, comb, and trigger placement.

Don't know about the high pattern adjustment. I would suspect that it may have to do with your sight picture and sight alignment along the top rib by raising the comb. Maybe beretta_boy or claybuster can advise here. I personally prefer a flatter shooting clay gun that I can use in all three disciplines.

In regards to recoil, again cannot comment. In my first clay experience, I used Winchester AAs in a light target load (1145fps, 2-3/4" 7-1/2 shells) and have not had any adverse recoil shooting from a Fabarms 14" shotgun (with 6" full choke extension) with the Knoxx NRS stock (non-recoiling). Based on that experience, I would suspect that I will get a better recoil feeling from a real clay shotgun.

My advice is to handle the 682 and swing it around in the store before buying. I tried out the Brownings and the Berettas.
 
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jacky said:
It is the 682 Gold E trap gun. It come with chokes...etc but you can now realize why I am asking these questions.
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jacky: I understand your reason for asking. Got to say it looks more like the sporting version than the trap version.
 
jacky, I tried the sporting version on a few round of 16 yard trap about 2 months ago. It worked fine, but for trap I would prefer a dedicated trap gun. I have not looked at the trap version yet. Does the comb on that one adjust for cast on and off and can the drop at comb or heel be adjusted separatly from the other or does it go up and down equally front and back?
 
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jacky, I tried the sporting version on a few round of 16 yard trap about 2 months ago. It worked fine, but for trap I would prefer a dedicated trap gun. I have not looked at the trap version yet. Does the comb on that one adjust for cast on and off and can the drop at comb or heel be adjusted separatly from the other or does it go up and down equally front and back?
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The gun pictured is right off the Beretta USA web site and is listed as a trap gun, different from the sporting. I assume you can adjust the cast left or right but whether you can adjust the heel spearately from the toe of the comb...I don't know. That would certianly allow one to "level off the comb" ??
We need more info.

http://www.berettausa.com/product/product_competition_guns_main.htm
 
The gun in the orig. post is not a trap gun, adjustable or not, the drop is more then usual for a modern trap gun.
 
jacky said:
...I assume you can adjust the cast left or right but whether you can adjust the heel spearately from the toe of the comb...I don't know. That would certianly allow one to "level off the comb" ??
We need more info.
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Information from the Beretta manual for the adjustment of the comb states the following:

"The adjustable stock features a 'Memory System' device. It allows to fit the stock by modifying the drop (at comb and at heel) and the cast (right or left). The adjustable stock of your shotgun is factory preset with standard measures of drop and cast."

"Adjusting The Drop
...Move the front and/or the rear part of the adjustable comb upwards or downwards to obtain the required drop measurement..."

According to the manual, it appears that the answers to the 2 questions above is 'yes' and 'yes'.

Also, if you want a copy of the manual, PM me and I will send you a PDF version with full instructions on the adjustable stock.
 
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jacky said:
This is what I am getting at. The is listed on the beretta web site as a trap gun ???
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The only reason I can think of as to why it is listed as a 'trap' version is the top rib appears to be slightly higher than the sporting model but not as extreme as the Trap Combo or Unsingle with the Monte Carlo stock. Also, the supplied chokes will include a Full plus the usual IM, M, IC, and C.

On the sporting model the only chokes included were the IM, M, IC, C, and SK so a Full will have to be purchased separately.

Hopefully the other more experienced clay busters can shed some light on your question since I am new to the clay sports.
 
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You see I saw a Beretta like that one for sale but could get a gun with a similar stock formation to line up for me. This is why I am asking. I would like a Beretta 682 trap but one with a "trap" stock. The Stock in the picture just doesn't seem right. Now it would probably make a great sporting gun :)
 
jacky:
Ben is right! This gun does not look like a traditional trap gun. I would think that beretta made a mistake in their clip and paste advertising. They usually include the measurements along with the description. In past years Beretta and Perazzi made a whole bunch of varaitions and different dimensions on guns they designated trap. Back to your original question? Does it bite? It does not matter what the sport, if the gun is fit right and mounted right, it should not bite the cheek. I often make low combed guns bite by mounting too high on my shoulder to compensate for low comb. I find that comb height is not the problem. The problem is with the pitch which causes gun to bite my cheek.

BTW what is a good Browning man like yourself doing, eying up a beretta?
 
The gun pictured above from the U.S. site doesn't look like a trap gun because of the stock. Otherwise it is a trap gun because it has flush chokes and a wider forend.

But the 682E trap guns shown on the Beretta International site appear to have different stocks with less drop.

Adjustable combs are okay and can help you adjust the POI. The higher the comb goes, the higher your pattern goes. Adjustable combs are okay but I'd rather have a fitted stock. If you have a bad day the temptation to fiddle with an adjustable comb is irresistable and usually makes things worse. I've also had an adjustable come loose in the middle of a shoot which makes me like them even less.
 
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