Just returned from a caribou hunt in northern Quebec. I was shooting my 300 WSM with handloaded 175 grn VLD hunting Bergers. At animals beyond 350 yards, they performed flawlessly with one shot kills. Shot one at 200 yards and it took four shots to drop him. 2 in the neck and 2 in the lungs. There was no expansion at shorter ranges. Anyone else experience this.
Berger bullets at shorter ranges
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Failed to expand at closer ranges?...This does not add up in any way shape or form!...
At closer ranges you should get more expansion!
Sounds like a QA/QC issue with the bullet manufacture, which I seriously doubt, especially with the reported number of shots taken.
I trust you recoverd the second animal..Therefore do you have any pictures of the resultant terminal ballistics?
At closer ranges you should get more expansion!
Sounds like a QA/QC issue with the bullet manufacture, which I seriously doubt, especially with the reported number of shots taken.
I trust you recoverd the second animal..Therefore do you have any pictures of the resultant terminal ballistics?
I use berger vld's in my 300 custom & got just the opposite result's , short range they make a heck of a mess. Also have taken bull elk & moose out to 1150 yards with no problem's. Maybe you just got a bad batch of bullet tip's but i doubt that with Berger's.
R U Carlos Hathcock? If not, then at 1150 yards you are either an idiot hunter, or playing video games.
You are obviously not a longrange shooter! You don't practice much and probably don't spend much on gear either.
Many hunters spend countless hours at the range practicing long range shooting just for such an opportunity so I would call that comment rather ignorant considering that many longrange shooters can make that shot rather easily in good conditions.
I wouldn't be so quick to comment on something that you are unfamiliar with.
Sgt Rock is indeed familiar with long range shooting...1000 yards, but on paper.
He also shoots a lot, and owns excellent gear!
If i were YOU, I would not be so quick to jump on him about his comment.
You see, there are a few hunters on here that, while they acknowledge that such shots are possible, they know how easily a wounding shot can happen at those ranges. [animal takes a step, or an unseen wind current,for example]
Therefore they find it somewhat lacking in ethics to poke away at animals that far away.
I have watched many of the long range hunting films.
Obviously we only get to see the successful shots, not the ones that resulted in wounded game.
Some will argue that game is wounded at short range as well, and that is true, but the odds against a perfect shot increase exponentially with distance.
Anything much beyond 600 meters becomes increasingly "iffy".
And, please bite your tongue before accusing me of not being a long range shooter, not practicing much and not spending much on gear.
Eagleye.
Ditto to this! While I cant do it myself, I saw my dad take deer and bear over 700 yards with less than a second aiming. Saw him rest against the hood of the truck to take a moose at 1500 once (Confirmed with range finder) For those with the skills, these shots arent as hard as you'd think
Eagleye,
I mean no disrespect to anyone on this site but his comment was ignorant to say the least.
If Sgt Rock is familiar with longrange shooting he should know that in good conditions these shots in question are easily made by accompished shooters(possibly himself included!). So to call someone an idiot or playing video games not knowing their shooting background would be idiotic as well.
I also watched one of the Davidson brothers shoot an antelope in the a$$ on an attempt take it at long range so yes these things can go wrong.
I know the odds of making longrange shots as well, 600 yards is a mere warm up for many shooters in good conditions.
I keep repeating myself here that these shots are possible in good conditions.
As for your ability to shoot long range and your gear, I know nothing about you other than your post count and your comments on this thread, so I'll reserve the right to make my own judgement.
Thanks,
Ivo
