Berry's Bullets

hal1955 said:
Any glock shooters out there use Berry's bullets for ipsc ? Do you like them and can you run a 124 gr. at 1100 fps ?


Yes I do use them when I can get them. No problems and I think they will run OK at that speed but maybe not too much higher.

Are they available in Canada anywhere?
 
Stay away from plated bullets in the glock, they act just like a lead round and tumble and keyhole. They are fine in aftermarket barrels or another type of firearms w/o the polygonal rifling, but for a glock they are just deplorable. There will be at least 1 person on this forum that shoots lead and or plated and says it works fine in their glock, but it doesn't past 15 yards.
 
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redberet said:
Stay away from plated bullets in the glock, they act just like a lead round and tumble and keyhole. They are fine in aftermarket barrels or another type of firearms w/o the polygonal rifling, but for a glock they are just deplorable. There will be at least 1 person on this forum that shoots lead and or plated and says it works fine in their glock, but it doesn't past 15 yards.
100% not true.
yes shooting anything but fmj in a polygonal rifled barrle is to a good idea due to the build up.
But i,m o nthe 15th glock in the last 8years and i can still hit a peper popper at 40m with wolf lead and marstar,s cmj.
I have shot a min of 200.000rds in glocks in the last 8years and its the only gun ive never had problesms with.
Most of that ammo reloads and lead or plated ammo
it still shoots good with lead or plated
my best load is 4.6grs of mil serp sp83 with a 124gr cmj and 40m from the bench i can get all lthe rounds in the a zone of an ipsc target and at 15yards all 20 rounds with in 2-3in and touching eachother.
maybe i just have the touch.....
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redberet said:
Stay away from plated bullets in the glock, they act just like a lead round and tumble and keyhole. They are fine in aftermarket barrels or another type of firearms w/o the polygonal rifling, but for a glock they are just deplorable. There will be at least 1 person on this forum that shoots lead and or plated and says it works fine in their glock, but it doesn't past 15 yards.

OK, I'll step up and be 'that guy'.....

It depends on the bullet. The latest shipment of Frontier bullets have thicker plating....and shoot just fine in all sorts of glocks...... Personally, I had no troubles cleaning the plates and poppers at RussellMania a couple of weeks ago with my G17....at ranges more like 25-30 yards, not the 15 you say they will keyhole at. Matter 'O fact, the guy that won the production division was using Frontiers in a G17.

Bottom Line: Try them. If they work for YOU, use them.



Hold on while I put on my helmet....
 
I've recovered Frontier plated bullets from wood and sand, and the plating is not split or pierced anywhere, which means they acted exactly like a jacketed bullet, wrt leading etc.

Redberet, you've never tried them, have you?
 
no plated bullets are made the same. Some will work in polygonal barrels, some will tumble= fact.
Frontier worked fine in my HK, but west coast or Xtreme did not.
 
I have 2 cases of frontier 9mm CMJ in my basement from marstar. All I can say is that they dont work well past 15 yards at all it keyholes like no tomorrow. I have used Wolf's 40 CMJ in my glock and it tumbles too. I even know one shooter that sold his glock and went back to para because he couldn't make his west coast CMJ's do any better than 12" at his Bullseye targets. He figured it was the gun and hates glocks to this day b/c of it.

Maybe there is a thicker jacket now, but for ipsc I don't want to risk it. I like my ammo to always be 100%. Frankly CMJ is just risky, I dont believe the quality control is that high, in the last bunch of Frontiers I got the plating had drips in it.
 
For a few xtra dollars I would go with FMJ, unless experience is good with plated. The PLated ammo I had I sold to an IPSC shooter who uses a CZ, he has no problems and loves the ammo.
 
redberet said:
...in the last bunch of Frontiers I got the plating had drips in it.

If they are defective (sounds like they might be) then return them. Marstar has one of the best warranties in the business.

BTW...the way that the copper is plated onto the bullet makes it near impossible to have 'drips'....it's not like they have to dry like paint.
 
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